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  1. CJ_is_Gone

    CJ_is_Gone Well-Known Member

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    The contract had more to do with his trade value than the no-trade clause
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    ? other teams could not bid. of course the no-trade clause brought down his value.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Quality family man right there you're cracking on you fucking dork!
     
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    How many teams would line up to trade a Simons level player, Dame type money, with a Porzingous type of injury history (games missed/played)? My guess is not many...

    This is all a counter-factual argument on both sides. We can just agree to disagree.
     
  5. Pinwheel1

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    That still does not explain why the Wiz did not take Miami's package. Beal said he would have good going there. At least they would have gotten some first-round picks.
     
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    What exactly was offered by MIA? I don't think we know for sure. Even writers and insiders didn't know what was the full PHX trade after news of it broke. Some of that is because WAS yet might expand it to a 3-team deal.
     
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    Maybe Beal didn't want to go there?
     
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    He said he would. Even if Phoenix was being "more aggressive" the Wiz could have held out for the Miami package that I am sure would have at least included one first-round pick, and quite frankly better trade assets if that is what they were after. No, I don't know what was offered but what they got could not have been worse.
     
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    Beal had a no trade clause. He chose Phoenix
     
  10. CJ_is_Gone

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    More than likely, the reported offer was substantially less than the real offer the Heat were making.
     
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    It was reported that Beal listened to “pitches” from both teams and would only waive his NTC for the Suns, not the Heat.
     
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    Oddly enough, I just saw and started reading this:

    Specifically mentions the Wiz preferred the Heat package.

    Side note: At this point I may consider trading Dame with any other team than Miami if this is true and Dame requests a trade. Fuck em’.

     
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    It was reported that we would “work with him” to trade him to a preferred destination and we let CJ pick where he wanted to go, but we wouldn’t let Dame?

    Seems doubtful we would just auction him off to the highest bidder
     
  14. illmatic99

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    If that's true, then Joe needs to go.
     
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    Well if I was the GM I would have said "Sorry, the package is too small. We are not doing it."
    Call his fucking bluff! Was there a reason it had to get done this week?
     
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    If you’re talking about the CJ thing, he explicitly said it on a podcast or something, or maybe it was Cronin or both. But I do remember it was straight from the horses mouth.

    The Dame stuff I guess we won’t know unless Dame ever requests out and we will find out pretty fast if it’s truly “open season”
     
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    I don’t think so, they probably just wanted to be done with it.

    But, to be fair, if you call his bluff then all he has to do is say, “ok, fine, you’re stuck with me then” and they have 50mm reasons per year not to want to do that
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I would tell Dame that we will try to accommodate him and ask for a list but I’m not gonna be forced into a shitty deal with Miami.
     
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    Maybe, but if you were Beal would you stay for another year? I get what you are saying, they just wanted his contract
    off the books. But I still would have said no to Phoenix. Beal would come up with another team
     
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    I'm talking prospectively about any potential dame trade. CJ had meh value so it's somewhat forgivable. A Dame trade has to set up a potential runway for eventual contention 3-4 yrs down the line. (Aka tyler herro and duncan robinson ain't it)
     
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