We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities.

I’d do that. Probably cause I’m not a huge Ant fan and dislike Nurk though. Will suck if 3 becomes a superstar but it’s big balls time I guess.

 

I would do that methinks. That's one all star level and another with all star potential, or all defense etc.

 

I’d do it if we could flip Grant.

But who plays center?

 

Dame
Sharpe
OG
Siakam
Draymond.

Definitely would be better on defense.

 

I feel like there’s no way Toronto would do that.

 

The return of the Eubanks.

 

Just a reminder, the Raptors finished 10th in the East last year. Are you sure you want to give up a potential generational talent with pick #3 for them? And look at Raptors roster, way better depth, talent, and balance than Blazers would have.

 

ive said this countless times, only one trade doesnt make us contenders (unless its a fucking superstar), it has to be two players (at least all-star level player and one really good player)

siakam & og anunoby fit that description, im not saying id do it, but id certainly think seriously about it

im just hoping we dont trade 3rd pick for one player (be it brown, siakam, ingram etc), that would be really, really bad

 

Apparently Jarace Walker is gonna go to Detroit and Cam Whitmores stock is dropping

 

I'd only do that if we have a promise from Siakam that he's resigning with us.. Still too much to give up for a one year rental of Siakam.

 

It is nothing but posturing and I bet every GM in the league sees through it. What would happen if Cronin went to Dame on draft day after selecting at number 23 and told Dame that the deals weren't good enough, people don't value Ant enough, people have a negative value on Nurk and so we're going to have to go into next season with what we have, re-sign Jerami and Matisse and hope to get a difference maker with the TPMLE. Dame would fucking be pissed and I bet he would ask out. If we make no changes but picking up two rookies and a vet with the TPMLE? Dame will want out.

So all of this shit is well and good and I'm not saying there isn't a world where we keep who we pick at 3 and Dame, I'm just saying there better be a fucking trade around other assets we currently have that gets Dame some upgraded immediate help because if it's last season's roster with just the three additions (pick 3, 23 and TPMLE) I think Dame will be done with this shit.

I don't think it's very likely that Cronin puts Dame in that situation for the fourth time (first trade deadline, last off season, last trade deadline and now). I don't really care what the spin is right now I'm still predicting that pick 3 will be traded and we will have an all star or a couple guys that Dame thinks have all star potential on the roster by the end of the evening on Thursday that we don't have right now.

 

Would people on here get excited for this and drafting a big that can play 4 or 5 with pick 23 maybe GG Jackson?

 

Nice

 

Do it if we can get assurance to keep both beyond next summer. But Marang is full of shit so take with a grain of salt.

 

Dame is not stupid. He understands these things. He will be OK with us drafting a player at 3 if the right offer isn't there.

 

First and foremost, Kobe would be among the very last players I'd personally be moved by any supposed quote of theirs. Regardless of occupation, the guy defined smug self centered dickhead, which is why he had so many issues getting quality guys to LA to join him. Does being unbearable to be around factor into your views on talent?

Much more then being taller, what the league was lucky about with Iverson was that he couldn't shoot. If he could have, he would have won multiple championships as he had insane quickness and could get good looks vs anyone at will... as good as anyone ever. It wasn't his size that prevented him from having touch on his shot it was a lack of talent in that regard. Maybe he had too many fast twitch muscles to be a good shooter and not enough of those nice slow predictable Kyle Korver muscles? Maybe it was something else (not enough practice?) but being taller certainly wouldn't have helped a lack of touch/feel. As players move up in size, outstanding athleticism stands out more just because of math reality being that there are less big people then averaged sized people, but can't shoot straight plagues all sizes. If Iverson had been like 8" taller (6'7) with the same quickness and handles to overpower this league of giants and take it to the hoop every time like LBJ, then yeah maybe he would have been even better.

I believe that size matters in hoops. What matters more is athleticism relative to guys the same size. But what matters even more is greatness. Greatness often isn't defined by sheer size or outstanding run/jump ability.... "Greatness just is" Dusty Baker. I'd hold out Jokic and Curry as prime examples of basketball savants.

STOMP

 

What if the right offer isn't there for Ant or Nurk or pick 23 or future picks? Do you think Dame will just be cool with running it back plus two rookies? Do you think he was just being stupid when he said what he most recently said to the press?