We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities.

Under valuing how valuable this years 3rd pick is

 

WTF is Austin Rivers being asked anything? As soon as he said we would still have Grant if we traded Dame I had enough. Richard Jefferson said "I don't know" 10 times...so that part was fairly accurate. and Windy said what he said before....we can improve and still keep 3

 

Media right now is a cesspool. Jumping to conclusions at every snippet from guys who dont know shit is not the smart thing to do.

Just best to let it play out on Thursday.

Also, Rivers? Stay in your lane buddy. Team got beat by a tanking Blazer team with a 19 yr old killing you guys. No position to talk about how far we are from contention.

 

If NOLA wants to give up Zion for Scoot, why settle for Kuzma?

Scoot is a highly valued commodity around multiple teams. Kyle Kuzma is not an equitable return

 

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/st...ions-best-prospects-most-overrated-underrated

1) Wemby
2) Scoot
3) Jarace
4) Miller

Some notable ones:

Most underrated: (Top 30)
Noah Clowney
Jett Howard
Brice Sensabaugh
Whitehead
Colby Jones
Julian Phillips
GG Jackson
Amari Bailey

Most Overrated: (Top 30)
Amen
Bufkin
Jordan Hawkins
Nick Smith Jr.

These two are by far the most overrated (Top 30):
Bilal Coulibaly
O-Max

 

Yeah I just feel like if Joe goes to Dame on draft night and says, “We tried but-“ Dame is going to be like, “Keep on trying.” If Cronin says the draft picks are the best they can do Dame will ask out right then and there. Maybe that’s what Cronin wants.
Maybe Cronin will pull off some awesome trades and we’ll have nothing to complain about for a while.

 

Big picture, whether we trade the #3 pick, keep it, trade or keep Dame, this team's future is brighter than it has been for the past few years. And for that, I am happy.

 

Remember before the lottery, one avenue portland uses to get dame help is the use of future picks. Almost no one is even talking about using it now that we lucked in to the 3rd overall.

If hornets take scoot, draft and keep miller, use other players not named dame and sharpe (and yes, future picks) to improve the roster with win-now talents

If hornets take miller, we will have teams outbidding each other for the 3rd pick (scoot), zion for example

Again, we can add veteran/s and also draft and keep a player at #3.

 

I noticed, and have noticed, the specific language of "Dame doesn't want to be part of a youth movement", versus Dame wants the pick traded. IMO, there is a difference between the two, one which leads to a path where we keep the 3rd pick, but it isn't in an all out youth movement. Trading Simons, 23, potentially future picks, Nurk, etc. could still be the avenue to bringing in the vets that Dame wants, avoiding a full youth movement, while still keeping 3.

 

It's definitely harder to extract the most value out of the third. Mostly because we don't have many contracts on our books right now, so the pick has to be paired with Simons. I really wish we still had Norm. That was the point being made by Josh Lloyd. That essentially Simons/3 was an overpay for a lot of the players that we are going after. He said that Simons/3 was too much for Bridges. It's funny though. I was listening to the Locked on Nets podcast last night and they actually had the nerve to say that Simons/3/Sharpe was tempting but it was something they'd have to think about..... like..... wtf?

 

You should make a new thread for this or post it in the other threads.

 

It directly relates to what we’re going to do with the third pick.

 

That could change really fast if Joe ships off the 3, Simons, and Sharpe for someone like Siakam. That would be a massive dump on our future.

 

I guess you could try to rebrand a youth movement as something else but if the two guys flanking Dame are Shaedon and Miller it's going to feel like the team didn't give a shit about what Dame said. He said in an interview that Shaedon is different but he's also enough and he doesn't need any more young guys. He said he's not there to mentor anymore, he just wants to win. Dame wants proven talent around himself, Shaedon and Jerami... he couldn't have been any clearer about that and in one interview he said, "I'm not a fool." I think very clearly that meant that this last trade deadline was the last time Joe gets to tell Dame that he tried but the right move wasn't there.

With what Dame has said I think pick 3 is too valuable of a trade chip for Joe to say that he couldn't get enough for it and expect Dame to be playing with a rookie that should have been able to get Dame an experienced all star to play with. Maybe I'm wrong and Dame has just been blowing smoke but that's not really the way this guy rolls. I guess we'll see or hopefully we won't because Joe will pull off some spectacular moves to put a highly competitive roster around Dame.

 

Dame has also publicly said that he thinks we have the assets to make moves that will make this team competitive. So in line with what you said, Dame clearly has expectations for how good he thinks the team should be going into next season.

 

the only applicable/appropriate response, in this scenario.