What veteran Center can we bring that protects the rim?

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Sounds like Lauri Markkanen needs one a well.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    The time to pry him was last summer when he was traded for the Grant package. That ship has sailed.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    How about Jeremy Grant in a sign and trade?
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to being a Blazers fan in free agency.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Scrub, I don't want him if we win now or rebuild. Vulcans probably don't want him as undrafted player is cheaper.

    Even if we rebuild I want to get 3-4 vets so the young guys see how to be a professional. They just need to be mediocre bench players. I don't want a 6ers process roster with zero vet leadership. Now if we try to win with Dame we need to fill those end of bench spots with vets that have a skill.
     
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    I thought it's over a million QO? If it's only a two way spot and we have nothing better that's fine.
     
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    Also has great chemistry with Jerami Grant. Supposedly, they played a lot of canasta in the Denver and Detroit locker rooms. Some of the games got really heated. I hope the two could let bygones be bygones.
     
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    I would guess that Grant would laugh if we suggested a return to Detroit.

    What are you basing this on? I don't necessarily doubt it, but he is only 20. No chance for him to improve? I am anxious to see him in the summer league to see how he has progressed. But even that may be too soon to judge him. I just don't think we have enough to go on yet to list him as a scrub. He at least has the physical/athletic tools to develop further.
     
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    Detroit has a handful of young bigs that need time on the floor (Duren, Wiseman, Bagley). What do you all think of a trade that brings Stewart and Bogdanovic to Portland for Simons + Little + (?). What else does that need to balance? Picks? A guard trio of Ivey, Cunningham, and Simons would be great for them.

    We’d getting a great veteran scoring SF and a solid backup center, and clear out our guard log jam.
     
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    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    Honestly, id love to have zach Collins back to back up nurk and play some four.
     
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    would you trade Simons straight up for Zach? SA has the cap space for an unbalanced trade
     
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    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    Hmmm. I think id have to ask for a couple of future picks. At least one.
    Not sure they would do that with their rebuild youth movement.

    Edit: After exploring other options and finding nothing, i might do it without a pick if they recused to give up a pick.
    Balancing the roster has value as well.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    You show 1 freakin' game. I saw him play multiple times last season and he's mediocre. Eubanks is better than him. You can flaunt stats all you want. Pass.
     
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    Why do they want Grant for Duren?
     
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    I wouldn't. A Simons trade needs to get the Blazers a starting forward so Lillard is happy to stay here. If not then it appears we are headed to a Dame trade.

    If there is a Dame trade I'm keeping Simons unless we get a player with more potential or a future pick. Zach provides neither.
     
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    here's a thought, trade Simons to Utah for John Collins, would Utah want Simons? Contracts are basically equal
     
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    Yeah the Grant thing was more of a joke as we traded the Duren assets for him.

    I'd flip it around and say what about Badji makes you think he has any sort of potential beyond a scrub? There's hundreds of players that are young and have physical or athletic tools that are similar. Nearly all of the good ones are under contract.
     
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    Collins and Markkanen are an odd fit so it would seem like Simons gives them better roster balance. Although if they keep Sexton and Clarkson maybe there is an argument against that.

    I think if we gave Ainge a pick he'd do that deal, but I don't think he would want to do a trade if there wasn't an asset coming back. I don't think he cares at all about roster balance right now. I guess if he is very high on Ant its possible they do that straight up, it's hard to know with those rumors that no teams in the league are interested in Ant.
     
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    Yes, the good ones are under contract. No there are not hundreds of young players with a 7'8 wingspan and 9'10 standing reach who are mobile. He could be a scrub, but until we actually see him play, I am not convinced he is one.
     
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    Especially with the upcoming Scoot vs Wembanyama rematches. I'm looking forward to those!
     

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