Mainly because I would refuse every Miami trade anyway. But also because I think he'll be a fan fave and a great glue guy.
It's impossible to know anything for sure. Your logic can be applied to "trade for picks from bad teams", too, since things can change in a hurry. Should we never make a trade without absolute certainty?
No, nor did I say that. I was simply saying I would not count on Phoenix being crappy that far in the future is just a guess. I am more interested in the young players we know about. But of course, I would still take those picks.
Well there is a choice that gives a person indigestion. If I had to choose, I'm probably going Ayton as I think he could be better in the right situation. KAT seems like he is who he is.
You inserted yourself into a conversation and are changing what we were talking about. I was responding to this: "Always cracks me up when people think 1st rounders from great teams are a haul. We want unprotected picks from crappy teams." I was not responding to "We want young players instead of draft picks from good teams." It's cool that you have the latter opinion but you didn't indicate that at all and I'm not a mind reader.
5 1sts sounds about perfect. I also want Jovic and Jaime Jaquez. BLEED THEM DRY! As to the OP trade, I think a nice thing about trading with Brooklyn is it is the one team other than the Celtics trading us Brown and 1sts, where Dame gets a real shot to compete AND we get the "Dragon's Treasure Hoard" level haul that Dame warrants.
That looks amazing for us, but taking Claxton absolutely guts Brooklyn and they have no shot at a title without adding another major piece. I think we probably ought to consider trades that do NOT involve Claxton as I imagine that would be a sticking point for Brooklyn. Maybe they figure they can actually attract FA's (unlike us) and so it's fine. I mean obviously take Claxton plus all the picks in the Universe they will offer. Personally, I'd see Clowney, Whitehead, + 5 firsts and them taking Nurkic along with Dame, as a pretty sweet haul!
They get Nurk, so they still have a center. They'd need another core piece though, and I don't think Herro is that piece.
The Suns-Nets trade really hurt Phoenix. The Wolves-Jazz trade really hurt Minnesota. The Orlando-Chicago trade really hurt Chicago. That's how it's supposed to be when you trade a superstar and get a fair return.
This would be a really good return for us, but why is Nurk going to Miami instead of Brooklyn if Brooklyn is going to need a center after this? Is Miami splitting picks between Portland/Brooklyn? Seems like most of the value is coming from Brooklyn's side.
Im pretty sure losing 5 daft picks, Noah Clowney and Dariq Whitehead hurts. That said, sure, take ‘em to the cleaners.
Claxton is far better and more reliable than Nurk. Again, I’d absolutely love to get Claxton and 5 firsts. Yes please, sign me up. Im just questioning if Brooklyn would do it.
Hot take--I'm not really sure that, without having personal sitdowns with the guys, I could rank these players in terms of "who I'd like here with their exact situation" (contract, age, injuries, attitude, etc). It might look something like this... 1. Ben Simmons 2. Rudy Gobert 3. Deandre Ayton 4. Karl-Anthony Towns
