That's exactly the name I was thinking of. I'm coming around... or back around..... to Ben Simmons. If we can take back a ton of picks for them to offload, I'm good with it. I'd put him at center.
Player empowerment = All Stars demanding trades from small markets to big markets. Quite possibly you are correct.
it's a risk, but all things considered, might not be a big risk. And, kind of like Zion, there's that remote chance of it paying off big time but the Blazers have to get a lot of draft capital
could be if Miami is putting the 2028 & 2030 picks into the mix, it could be something like Portland getting the best of the Miami/Brooklyn 2028 & 2030 1st's and Brooklyn getting the worst like Nate said in another thread, we just don't know how much Brooklyn values Herro, and how much they are willing to pay to dump Simmons. My guess would be 1 pick for Herro and 1 pick for Simmons. Blazers might actually be able to squeeze more value out of the deal by 'sharing' the potential of those two Miami first's with Brooklyn. If Brooklyn was keeping one of the Heat/Nets picks in 2028 and 2030, they might be willing to add 2 or even 3 other first's to the mix headed Portland's way
I think they would do this and I would do this if I was Joe. They lose none of their players they can count on, they gain Dame and Nurk we take Ben Simmons and get 4 FRPs and 4 young prospects.
I got something a little different. I’m okay with getting back one real young that we’d be excited about, taking on the rest of Ben’s contract, and expirings for 6 1sts. I would really hold out for at least 5 1sts. We’re just gonna have to tell Dame “Miami doesn’t have the assets. We’re going to send you somewhere that may have been your second choice and give you the best salary cap position for you to compete these next four years”. Dame with Mikal, DFS, Cam, and Claxton with Nurk, Thomas, and Whitehead off the bench on paper is arguably better than the Heat without Dame.
Clowney is the one guy I’m interested in on the Nets. Whitehead is also an intriguing prospect, but both are close enough in tier that I lean toward positional fit. Clowney looks like someone who has potential to what everyone thought Marquees Chriss would be. Chriss are quite a bit more athletic, but Clowney looks athletic enough to become Chriss had Chriss reached his potential. Chriss was a freak athlete. Explosive plays. Nothing else outside of that. Fouled out a lot. Clowney isn’t as great of an athlete, but has an actual defined skillset—defense. Clowney looks like he could become a Claxton/Jones level defender eventually. Also has a good looking 3 that could become more consistent.
I wish Joe could tell him that but I am afraid Dame will get his wish. Ripping the scab off: hearing all the deals Cronin passed up to please a guy for wanting out of his contract. The only reasons Dame stayed last year were to get the extension and get the scoring record. It is now so clear. The organization has done PLENTY for him. I think after this debacle and the way Joe will fuck it up will be the end of his GM career. Who would hire Joe after this tenure here? Just like Neil.
Ben Simmons could be a really good PF, where his lack of outside shooting would be less impactful. If you think about everything else he brings, all-nba defense, good rebounding, excellent passing, good scorer inside. It all hinges on him actually playing. But the Blazers could actually be a playoff team if he does.
Lmao, anyone suggesting we take Simmons or is ok taking Simmons, his big contract and his fragile mentality need to seriously get checked. if we end up with Simmons regardless I’m going to be disgusted and i promise if you aren’t now either, you will when you see Simmons playing for us, or sitting out games left and right.
The problem is you'd be expecting ANYTHING from Simmons. ***With the caveat that we get paid to take him (important caveat because he is a negative asset)***... - His contract is only 2 more years. Next year we won't be good AND we'll be well below the cap thresholds, so concerns next year about his contract is really just worrying about Jody's billionaire money. - Absolutely the only RISK that his contract brings is us not being able to make big splashes in free agency next offseason, but lets face it, that was never really a concern. - After next season, his contract becomes an asset as a massive expiring... - As a player, when he's able to be on the court, he's the perfect forward to pair with a lineup of scorers -- he's a great defender, competent rebounder, doesn't need shots and likes facilitating. If he somehow gets his body and mind right, he's definitely a plus player. Who cares if he sits? We're not trying to win games next year anyway. Who cares if he's fragile mentally? We'll lose 60 games next year with or without him. And if he causes problems in the locker room we cut him and are basically in the exact same situation, except we got an asset or two to take him. What's to be disgusted about? I Lmao at anyone who can't see the opportunity that he presents...
Everything you said is so wrong on many levels, I don’t even know where to begin. how about we get a better package and just so no to Simmons so we don’t even have to deal with all those things you listed. He is not an asset or a problem, whichever way you look at Simmons, we need to have. keep him far away and we won’t even have to talk about him, how about that? sounds like the best thing to me.
Please, by all means, explain to me how and where I'm wrong? I'm not advocating for trading for him. Simply that if we take him for a couple assets, it's not as bad of a thing as you seem to think it is...
