Andrew wiggins for Kevin Love was agreed upon weeks before his 30 day wait was over. Signing Jaquez isn't a deterrant. They can agree to him being included now then the trade happens when it can.
Dude, I've gone in circles with you. He asked Norm where he wanted to go. He asked CJ where he wanted to go. Now he's not going to ask Dame where he wants to go? The reports are that he's going to Miami. Try to keep up.
Do you know what a deterrent is? It's not full-proof. It's just a barrier. The barrier is that if Joe really wants to complete a deal, he can't unless he leaves Jaquez out of the deal. Or he waits 30 days. It's literally a deterrent. Doesn't mean there aren't ways around it.
I mean, if you want to call it a deterrant, it's a super shitty one that has precedence to get around. Enough that i doubt it was done with the intentions of being a deterrant.
Hmmmm... you sure? We are drafting their rights but I don't think we have to sign them to a contract.
The difference is he wanted Norm and CJ gone. He didn't care where they went as long as he got rid of their contracts. They wanted to go in a different direction. Should they have gotten an extra pick for Norm? Maybe but the goal was to get rid of them. Their value was nowhere close to what Dame's is.
That's literally the definition of a deterrent. Shitty or not. If you don't have to sign 1st round picks before they can play summer league, it's probably intentional, considering Riley had a good idea they were going to make a play for Dame and Portland was going to be asking for rebuilding pieces.
A first round pick is a guaranteed deal, as opposed to a second round pick which is not a guaranteed deal.
Agreed that the value isn't the same. But we're making the assumption that he didn't want to lose Dame. I don't think we can say that for sure. You look at his moves the last two seasons, it mostly feels like Cronin always wanted Dame to ask out.
I like Jaquez and I like the value of Martin but if Miami would do what it takes to guarantee that the pick they owe OKC will convey 2026 then I would be just fine with this... even if the Spurs only threw in one pick instead of two.
There is a specific amount of money that each pick can sign for, but I'm not sure if the team HAS to offer them a deal. Do you have a link?
I don't agree. Anyway, if you think Riley is making a Dame trade more difficult, he's not doing himself any favors.
Jaqquez contract is not that big, we have two TPE's, do the deal whenever its ready without Jaquez and finish the trade with Jaquez (send out worst second) when it can be done
We have different cutoff points i guess. I was very early to give up on D.Rose and I've been saying for more than a year now that the Grizzlies need to trade Morant. I usually don't like to trust those kind of players, but the potential of Zion...that dominance, is very enticing.
"The Clippers have been trying to find a trade exit for both Marcus Morris Sr. and Norm Powell, league sources say. They found neither before Wednesday at midnight and thus felt forced to waive Eric Gordon." Isn't that what Cronin did with Powell? Successfully. https://hoopshype.com/2023/06/29/marcus-morris-and-norman-powell-on-the-block/ Cronin is not trying to find a "trade exit" for Dame.
Dont' agree. I am not saying every move Joe made was wise. But one can argue that every move was to get pieces to build around Dame. Even the tank the last two years. He did not know they would move up in the lottery and he did not know Scoot would fall to 3. So those who say Joe drafted Scoot so Dame would want out are not thinking clearly IMO. He just was not willing to move #3, Sharpe, and Ant for 1 player. #3 yes, but he would be an idiot to give away Sharpe too.
