Let be serious who did the blazers actually have that would bring players back that would actually help Dame to closer to a championship. Simons might bring a something back back his lack of being a defender not going get you above average player. Nurk been hurt to much to bring something that actually will help. Cleveland was checking on Little you still not going bring the quality that Dame needs. Grant was a FA. You had the 3rd pick know one wanted to give any star player for that draft pick. Dame is not stupid he already knew this due to FA is not breaking Down the door. We going be trading a player that we can get most of the trade and that's Dame. Joe now has to his job get the best package that he can get for that trade. Dame boys can throw out as much crap they want to get where he wants but since Dame under contract with no trade clause in that contract he really out of his and agent control. The one that's has upper hand is Joe Cronin because actually he don't actually have to trade him but I don't see that happening though.
That shit can't happen twice. He goes in as a blazer. Then again, I don't know wtf the brand of Dame is anymore so what do I know.
Dame can't be traded until the 10th. As such, I really don't understand why he gave the Blazers a public ultimatum nearly two weeks out to trade him only to a franchise that can't put together a reasonable package. He chooses to trash his Portland legacy and loyalty/high character reputation and is guarenteed to stay the entitled athlete of the moment in the daily news cycles for days on end. Much much better tell the club closer to the 10th and do it quite. STOMP
So how is dame winning that if he's pigeonholing us? Granted we don't know the return yet but dame hasn't been doing us any favors.
that's pretty interesting....and it does put a very different spin on the situation I can see how, from Dame's perspective, and his agent's perspective, that could make Cronin appear like a liar. I'd imagine Joe has a different slant....like he was just laying out optimistic options. But optimistic can't be divorced from realistic otherwise it's just more bullshit and while it probably doesn't excuse all the things coming out of Dame's camp, it could certainly make Dame feel justified in playing hardball and not caring about how his tactics damaged the Blazer options I'm pretty certain that Dame did not trust Olshey, at all. And I'm thinking Dame didn't trust Jody & the Vulcans. And probably believes they mislead him for years. If he was at the point of not trusting Cronin, there was really nobody in the Blazer organization he could count on. This could get ugly and the notion of going into the season with Dame still a Blazer is a bad idea if what you said is true, I think a lot of the Dame-bashing around here is off-base
Dame tarnished his reputation not by asking to be traded but by asking to be traded to only one team, knowing that specific team can't afford him.
I think so if what Sly heard was true, Dame likely doesn't trust anything the Blazers tell him. I mean, it's probably safe to say Dame and his agent went into that meeting expecting honesty and the blunt truth on where things were. If within a few hours of the meeting they knew Cronin fed them tons of BS about options, there's no going back from that. and frankly, that would be a really bad tactic for Cronin to take with an agent. Agents talk and Cronin could suffer some significant damage to his rep
The Dame bashing is fair, actually, for multiple reasons. This just is another one. No deal is truly dead until there's a resolution. In other words, Dame is traded, Dame is placated, or the sides decide to remain with the status quo. From Cronin's perspective, he might very well have been intending to make counter-proposals to those initial offers, and, from Sly's post, it sounds like evidence he was willing to work hard to get something done but there were no takers before the draft. But a lot of these deals get started, get leaked, then we hear they're dead and sure enough it leads to something breaking the logjam and either the deal gets done or another deal gets done in its place. Nothing, IMO, excuses Dame's management team from trying to cut the Blazers off at the knees because he was miffed that he and Goodwin had another idea of the attempts to improve the team, especially since Sly's post makes it apparent they knew Cronin not only was trying, but apparently was trying harder than most of us thought. What Dame did didn't just affect Cronin, but it put Chauncey, his former teammates and Blazer fans all in bad positions. And for what? Because he got the impression big trades Cronin told him he still was pursuing were dead? Sorry, but that's shortsighted and petty.
Yeah. If it's true, he probably didn't want to submit the trade request until after Jerami got his bag and I would guess that he didn't want to openly call out the team because he just wants to leave.
That, again, seems unreasonable to me. First, you have to presume Cronin is not just a liar but a simpleton in not realizing Goodwin would check things out with his peers and other GMs. Cronin might not be an elite GM, but you're suggesting incompetence of the highest level. The other thing this suggests is that if Cronin told Dame he pursued all these deals but was rebuffed on all of them that Dame would have been "OK, you tried to do what I asked, so I'll stay." I have a hard time believing this level of vindictiveness on Dame's part is based not on whether Cronin got a deal done but feeling slighted because deals Cronin's contacts acknowledged were discussed were rebuffed, and Dame was angry that he felt Cronin was lying about the outcome of the offers or his disposition toward them.
I mean, in the context of the current state, is the Dame to the Heat deal dead because the Blazers didn't accept Miami's initial pitch? That's how I'm reading the potential "needle-moving" trades before the draft. Cronin said he pitched them, obviously they didn't get done, but he might have felt he was laying the groundwork still to get something done with one of those partners. Goodwin calls other GMs or agents and they say "It's not going anywhere," so he and Dame throw up their hands, believe GMs (possibly GMs from teams that might have reason to want Dame to push to leave Portland) and agents over Blazer management and say "Trade me, and imma screw you over on the way out."
