I think if Miami doesn't present an offer we can stomach in next few days then you trade him to another team assuming they have better offers and do it in the next week or two, agree if we wait too long then for a few reasons value goes down and its not a good idea with Scoot/Shae era ready to roll.
Who said they want Dame benched? My position would be to tell him we haven't been able to get an equitable return for him, and that if he wants to go, then play like hell and show everyone they were wrong for lowballing us. I've never seen Dame run from an on-court challenge. Play him 36 minutes per game and let Dame be Dame. If it retards the progress of this team for a few months, it's no big deal in the grand scheme of things.
Agreed... this is a career-altering thing for both Cronin and Dame, and they both have different interests. I don't have a problem with how either of them have handled it, and I think the only groups of people who seem upset so far are: Heat fans who think they should get what they want Dame fans who feel betrayed Dame fans who feel like Dame is getting screwed Media members who get paid to seem upset As a Blazers fan, I am enjoying this. I am excited about moving on with a young team and I'm fascinated to see who we get for Dame. I am much more concerned about our contract decisions and the fact we are one of the smallest NBA teams I can remember.
Joe should issue a statement that he is giving Miami a chance to come with an acceptable offer and if it does not happen, there will be another conversation to be had.
He should. But there's nothing they can ever do to come out as the best offer short of including Bam. And they're not going to do that.
it was a thought, not an edict I don't think this situation will get better but maybe a delay can cool the temperatures a bit. Doubtful, but possible
I am gobsmacked and cannot give the answer to 'why' he has taken this path. It is out of character given his previous stellar conduct in the public arena.
I ain’t eating a shit sandwich prepared by Riley. Fuck that, if it’s really Robinson/Herro/2 1s, it will still be there in October. Let Dame and Miami sweat. Joe gets pushed around here he can kiss anyone taking him seriously in trade talks going forward. Plus Lillard looks worse by the day with this 1 team shit. Just my opinion.
1. He has enough equity built up that this won't tarnish his rep. 2. He feels like he was lied to. Cronin really did do nothing to build a viable roster and seems like a terrible negotiator. The other thought here is that Joe wanted a full rebuild but didn't have the guts to pull the plug himself. 3. All the stars do this to some extent. Lebron, KD, AD, PG, CP3, etc etc etc, so it doesn't matter. 4. We drafted his replacement.
I absolutely cannot figure it out, and it is the part of this episode that is most vexing. It's SO out of character. If he were some cocky a**hole all these years, Portland is a small enough town that his rep would leak. But by all accounts, he has been the opposite. Not perfect, but a really good guy.
Cronin could very well have had his deals turned down and still think they would happen as draft day came and teams became more ready to deal.. I don't think he was being dishonest.
Again I don't see how this is dishonest on Cronin's part. I'm assuming he DID think those trades were still possible. I'm assuming he did continue to re-engage with those teams right up until the moment came for us to make our pick. I guess he was wrong about there being a possibility the trades would happen but I don't think that is being dishonest.
If you can't back up your opinions, you're going to get hammered on one of the more knowledgeable message boards out there. If you think being told you're wrong is a personal insult, that's kind of up to you. You can survive one of vehement, wrong and public.
2. Ad infinitum...what was the horrible negotiation Cronin did? Hold Sharpe plus Scoot as "untouchable?" I don't know how horrible that it. He got out of Powell and RoCo a year early (Belichick-style)--their value is horrible right now. He got a first back for CJ when they couldn't even get sitting-out Ben Simmons for him. That said, if he feels like he was lied to, then that's real. :shrug: Maybe Goodwin could've told him some agent things about how things were going down, but pretty obviously didn't. 4. If Scoot was good enough to replace him in the next two years or so, then there's a "win-now" move. Should be a positive. If he's a "rebuilding team candidate that will take 3-4 years to mature", then sure, we're drafting Aaron Rodgers to sit behind Favre (or Love to sit behind Rodgers). That may not make the team better today, but that's not threatening Dame. I feel like one can only argue one side of that...
