I have been saying for a while that we have no incentive to rush to make a trade. But a part of me also realizes the market for Dame is pretty minimal given his age and contract. Are we prepared to forego a ROY caliber yr from Scoot to drag this on for a few more months? And can we be sure that a better deal will manifest in Feb? Goodwin/Haynes et al have already exercised the extent of their leverage. But the question is... How much more do we have as the team?
This is it, exactly. It was his PUBLIC declaration that he was going to be a M'eat. Kevin Durant wanted to go to Phoenix, but he requested that sole destination privately and Marks was able to hold an auction for him across the League to get better value for him from the team he wanted all along. The longer this goes on, the more it seems like these conversations had been going on between Dame's team (Goodwin's job is to provide deniability for Dame) and the M'eat. They knew they didn't have the assets to get Dame in an open market, so they have been trying to depress that market by denying entry to other franchises. It's tampering, it's selling us down the river, it should be illegal, but it happens all the time. Our only response is to be patient and get closer to the season where Dame's competitive desperation will kick in. Does he really want to sit out of camp? If he does, he's KILLING his brand. Our response right now is reasonable. Just expand your list to a team that stands a chance to compete to go deep in the playoffs, don't just tell us one destination that doesn't have the assets for fair compensation. If he does that, the pressure then gets put on Cronin. We're then the ones viewed as holding Dame hostage. Right now, it's Dame holding us hostage.
They can just tell Dame to sit. I'm pretty unsympathetic to someone making millions of dollars even given the circumstance. But even if they didn't, the Heat have a lot more to lose if all we're losing is "a ROY year from Scoot". Way I'm reading the tea leaves is: Blazers would probably accept Miami's best offer, but Miami hasn't put their best offer on the table yet. So this is just going to go on until Miami puts their best offer on the table.
Heat need to get us a pick(s) for Herro and all their 1st/swaps. If they aren't at least giving us that probably better to sit on Dame. He'd still likely have that value of their lesser offers at the deadline or 2024 off-season. If the Heat do offer all that I'd probably ultimately take the deal as yeah ideally we want this resolved before training camp and the season. I'd give up a little bit of expected value to move on, but I'm not dumping Dame in a trade we are clearly losing big.
Anyone know when Lowry contract is guaranteed? This could be a bit of a "deadline" to complete the deal.
Was thinking about how Houston handled the Harden exit. 1. Harden makes trade demand over the summer. 2. Gets completely outta shape and doesn't show up to training camp. 3. Rumors about other destinations surface (remember the Olshey-Rockets GM photo from Moda before game 1?) 4. Harden drops 40. 5. Harden creates drama with disparaging comments seemingly every week and the team comes up with bullshit excuses to not play him. 6. Harden hires a third party agency/lawfirm to facilitate trade discussion (wonder if Dame will do this...) 7. Harden gets traded in January
The fastest way this gets done is for Dame to pressure Miami to not get cute. I don't think Dame is all that motivated to do this yet—'he wants to play with Caleb Martin!!!'
Thought I heard there was dates it could be cut for savings.... Either that's wrong, that date has passed, spotrac is wrong, or maybe they meant stretching it.
I don't see anything about it not being guaranteed on Spotrac https://www.spotrac.com/nba/miami-heat/kyle-lowry-2536/
Ok I found out for Lowry its the waive and stretch provision the Heat could use to lower luxury tax, deadline is Sep 1. https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/article276659416.html
All Dame has to say is “trade me to the Lakers” and everyone here will be rooting for him to go to Miami.
Why would the Heat waive and stretch Lowry if they acquired Dame (both parties would probably want his salary in the deal instead of DRob because it's expiring), 'and' in a scenario where Dame doesn't come (they'd need a PG)? I get that deadlines drive action but I don't see any scenario where they want to waive and stretch Lowry.
I agree, he’s not stupid he wants best team possible there. Smart move but honestly feels like he’s sticking it to Blazers by doing this.
If Miami doesn't think they will be able to close a Dame deal stretching Lowry could save tens of millions. I guess with them not retaining free agents or using the MLE though you may be right - they probably don't have the tax burden that this article considered before they lost Strus/Vincent.
I love that this boner wants to bash on ESPN and the Blazers for pushing a narrative.... but not a word about Haynes or Shams or Fentress etc. This guy looks like he should be running a chop shop or pushing stocks.
