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No rumors, because there are very unlikely to be any.

But it struck me that OKC has a recent history of (a) stockpiling draft capital (to a RIDICULOUS degree, far more than they can reasonably use) and (b) absorbing other team's unwanted contracts as a way to do (a). How about they spend some of that draft capital and absorb Dame's contract? Of course, Dame will squeal and refuse to play, but OKC is actually pretty damn good now, and they could gamble that he could come around, or if not, turn around and trade him later, possibly for a markup, as they have done in the past (see Chris Paul, Al Horford). And it would just be SO SWEET to say fuck you to Aaron Badloss and Pat Riley. And, it must be said, Dame.
 
They won’t trade a superstar to their in division up and coming rival.

But if they did…Who do you ask for? Giddey, one of the Williams, Dort….Mills? And picks.
 
I mean, look at these picks:
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You'd have to wait a bit but they could send us this package of players (obviously Dort is the only real value here, which is why OKC wouldn't mind trading for an unhappy Dame [they drafted Cason Wallace who is sort of a Dort clone]):
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ant said:
They won’t trade a superstar to their in division up and coming rival.
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Why not? If Dame thought we were a contender in his window, he'd be staying. It's not like we'd be meeting OKC in the WCF. IF we get there it'll probably be in a minimum of 5 years at a VERY optimistic estimate, and Dame will be a broken-down old relic by then.
 
C'mon Presti, ROLL THE DICE. You can bet that Dame's preferred team list would magically embiggen if he was stuck in Oklahoma.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
No rumors, because there are very unlikely to be any.

But it struck me that OKC has a recent history of (a) stockpiling draft capital (to a RIDICULOUS degree, far more than they can reasonably use) and (b) absorbing other team's unwanted contracts as a way to do (a). How about they spend some of that draft capital and absorb Dame's contract? Of course, Dame will squeal and refuse to play, but OKC is actually pretty damn good now, and they could gamble that he could come around, or if not, turn around and trade him later, possibly for a markup, as they have done in the past (see Chris Paul, Al Horford). And it would just be SO SWEET to say fuck you to Aaron Badloss and Pat Riley. And, it must be said, Dame.
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They could help if they value Herro. But they don't need Dame. They need the ball to be in SGA's hands when the game is on the line.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
They could help if they value Herro. But they don't need Dame. They need the ball to be in SGA's hands when the game is on the line.
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That's an indictment on Dame, but also not wrong.
 
I could see them being part of a larger deal where they dispose of some of those draft picks. How far under the cap are they currently?
 
Pinwheel1 said:
They could help if they value Herro. But they don't need Dame. They need the ball to be in SGA's hands when the game is on the line.
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If they add Dame they've got a much better chance of IMPORTANT games being on the line
 
OKC is messing up by getting too good too fast. The Thunder need a good wholesome tank next year to improve their 1st round pick.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I mean, look at these picks:
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You'd have to wait a bit but they could send us this package of players (obviously Dort is the only real value here, which is why OKC wouldn't mind trading for an unhappy Dame [they drafted Cason Wallace who is sort of a Dort clone]):
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7 picks in one year. My brain can't comprehend that lol
 
Whyachi said:
OKC is messing up by getting too good too fast. The Thunder need a good wholesome tank next year to improve their 1st round pick.
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Driving up the price for a billionaire to buy them up and move them back to SEA. Why fight with Lebron over an expansion team in '26 when you can just get prime SGA, young firepower and 100 draft picks to reload and replenish?
 
If we can speculate Utah might make a trade, OKC is no different.

I'd want Sam Presti to include his wife in any deal, though.
 
The more I think about this, the more it makes sense. Presti literally has 22 players right now (I read somewhere) and has to get down to 15 by training camp. He HAS to trade. Meanwhile, he has a bazillion draft picks and no room to play them because he already has a shit ton of good young players. Why not just acquire the superstar who's sitting out there with assets that you HAVE to get rid of? It's not like Presti hasn't done this before - see Chris Paul. And it's not like Shai hasn't shown that he can play next to a hall-of-fame PG and have the Thunder flourish - see Chris Paul.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
The more I think about this, the more it makes sense. Presti literally has 22 players right now (I read somewhere) and has to get down to 15 by training camp. He HAS to trade. Meanwhile, he has a bazillion draft picks and no room to play them because he already has a shit ton of good young players. Why not just acquire the superstar who's sitting out there with assets that you HAVE to get rid of? It's not like Presti hasn't done this before - see Chris Paul. And it's not like Shai hasn't shown that he can play next to a hall-of-fame PG and have the Thunder flourish - see Chris Paul.
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Only if we get Jalen Williams in the deal.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
b) absorbing other team's unwanted contracts as a way to do
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Respectfully, in the CP3/Horford model of it, Presti would be taking picks from Portland for them taking on Dame.

Now I did also consider this, given that they have 4 2024 first round picks. But they seem to flip those closer to the draft when teams start to think about moving a future first and 2nds for one today.

As an exercise, I’d go Jalen Williams, Bertans, filler, and 3 firsts—Dame gives them an Uber to the WCF. Then Presti flips him next summer for something else.
 
KingSpeed said:
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Dame in OKC with Chet, SGA, Poku, etc would be dangerous! I left out Giddey, because that is who I would want back. It would be almost impossible to do for now due to some of the salaries that would be needed, need a couple of months before they are available for a trade. There are certainly plenty of Draft picks available from OKC.

But trading within the Conference/Division?
 
KingSpeed said:
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"sources"....haha

janitors on the down low!

TBpup said:
Dame in OKC with Chet, SGA, Poku, etc would be dangerous! I left out Giddey, because that is who I would want back. It would be almost impossible to do for now due to some of the salaries that would be needed, need a couple of months before they are available for a trade. There are certainly plenty of Draft picks available from OKC.

But trading within the Conference/Division?
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yeah, within the conference would be tough; within the division would be an even bigger pill to swallow. But the Blazers could wash it down with a couple of extra 1st round draft picks

I agree that Giddey would have to be the main ask. He'd fit real well in Portland IMO. With him, Sharpe and Little as well as Grant I think I'd settle for the 6'10 Jaylin Williams. Asking for Jalen Williams might be too much after getting Giddey. I'd kind of like Isaiah Joe too

getting Giddey (ball-handling and facilitation) and Joe (perimeter shooting) pretty much eliminates the reasons to keep Ant around...that's a big bonus in my view

Blazers would have to take back Bertrans & Oladipo; probably Gay to match salary. Dipo and Gay are expiring contracts; Betrans only has 5M guaranteed in 2024-25

I'm assuming after 'giving away' Giddey, Williams, and Joe, OKC would not want to give away a lot of draft picks. But they'd have to add 2 or 3 first's plus a couple of 2nd's

I really doubt the 'sources' though
 
TBpup said:
Dame in OKC with Chet, SGA, Poku, etc would be dangerous! I left out Giddey, because that is who I would want back. It would be almost impossible to do for now due to some of the salaries that would be needed, need a couple of months before they are available for a trade. There are certainly plenty of Draft picks available from OKC.

But trading within the Conference/Division?
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It’s certainly unconventional but it makes sense for both teams. By the time Scoot and Sharpe are ready to make some noise, Dame might be ready to ironically come back to Portland to retire here. Also, its pretty low risk for PKC worst case they trade Dame at the deadline or next summer to a contender and Dame will be ecstatic to go to ANY contender.
 
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