Miami Heat Dame Trade Ideas and Rumors

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  1. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Eric Gordon has made $158 million and earned 18 million last year at age 34. Yeah he's turning 35 soon and will now make much less at $3 million per year - nobody is saying Ant should make over $25+ million in 2035.

    Jordan Poole, Tyler Herro, etc are paid about the same as Ant. Maybe he is a tad overpaid, but he certainly isn't significantly overpaid. If he makes improvements, as history would suggest will happen for a player after their age 23 season, he'll become very underpaid.

    With the cap approaching 200 million there's plenty of room for Ant at $25 million - especially while our two cornerstones are on rookie contracts.

    Now is Grant work $160 million or Nurk worth $70 million? Both are way past the age of improvements. Those are the overpaid contracts to criticize; not Ant signing for $25 million per year at 22.
     
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    I think it's extremely sketchy that Boston hasn't agreed to a deal with Brown.
     
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    Doesn't really matter because the Blazers are very high on Ant so they aren't trading him unless its for a very good return; which apparently there isn't a market for right now.

    Blazers will do a Dame trade first, possibly Nurk/Grant deals in the months ahead. They will take a lot of time, many months into the season if not into next summer, before deciding of doing any moves with Scoot/Sharpe/Ant.
     
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    we haven't seen the Miami package yet. Everything up to this point is pure speculation. Has Cronin made ugly trades to tear this team down for the rebuild? Yes, but that doesn't mean he's going to get hosed by Miami.

    The material is already in the lot to begin the build, any extra help from Miami should be considered welcome. Thank you Pat Reily for taking this huge contract, we like the picks, good luck in the playoffs, have fun with your new All-Star.
     
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    I don't know if this is true. It sounds like he doesn't have much of a market out there.... just like Herro.

    I think we're stuck with him. It doesn't make sense to dump him for nothing with Dame going out there door, but I don't really see any indications that they're very high on him.
     
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    This might end up being the best realistic deal. I hate the idea of getting zero known young players that appear to have a probable trajectory as a high quality starter. Selfishly, I would want Portland to get at least one guy they can hang their hat on. Jovic and Jaquez are not those guys.
     
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    Chauncey loves him and he's been the face of Blazers marketing material for months.
     
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    "- Multiple first-round pick swaps, which Miami has available for 2024, 2027, 2029."

    LMAO I would so love if a 2024 Miami swap with the Blazers happens. So we would be in the lottery thus keep our pick from Chicago, but would swap so Miami actually finishes this year worse or jumps into the top4.
     
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    Of course Chauncey loves him. He's another score-first combo guard.... like Chauncey.

    But Scoot and Shae are CLEARLY the future of the team.
     
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    Maybe we would get a 2024 pick from a 3rd team for Herro (Brooklyn, Philly, etc) and that would have a swap with Miami which makes much more sense. A 2024 swap with Miami PDX should have basically no value to us.

    Now the 2027 and 2029 swaps I certainly do want us to get. Those could be worth a ton, especially if we rebuild well with Scoot/Sharpe/etc.
     
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    If we do end up having that deal shoved down our throat, I'd be hoping we could flip some of those picks for Jarrett Allen.
     
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    I'm interested in what you're trying to spell out, but I'm not following it.

    If we have a 2024 swap with Miami and we're in the lottery, we wouldn't exercise the swap, correct?
     
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    Yup. The 2024 swap would be basically worth nothing. It's filler. It's another line on the invoice to make the deal look better than it is.
     
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    That's the type of name I'd be happy to have in conjunction with a few first round picks.
     
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    I think he's saying it would be hilarious if we still ended up in the lottery so that we kept our pick instead of sending it to Chicago, but Miami has a worse season than us so we swap and take theirs.
     
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    LOL... oh my, yeah that would be some scenario.
     
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    I'm really hoping that we can work out some kind of four team deal where we take some of Miami's crap and turn it into something decent.

    Probably a pipe dream.
     
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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... god I love Heat fans.

     
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    Yeah if Miami pushes all their chips into this trade I've always maintained it could end up being very good value to Portland. Yeah I know many people scoff because there isn't a headline player as when the Nets got Bridges.

    However; if we can control all of Miami draft equity in 2027, 2028, 2029, 2030 it could be worth a massive amount either at that time while we are pinched with max contracts around Scoot/Sharpe. Or in a deal earlier if we need picks to acquire that final star wing. We can also get a few additional pieces for Martin & Herro.

    The was basically the entire problem with the last 11 years of building around DameCJ; we never had assets to go get that 2nd/3rd star wing.

    Boston had less assets from Brooklyn than what we could potentially get if Miami pushes all their chips in. Boston still ended up with Tatum and Brown. Just imagine having a solid playoff team in ~5 years with Scoot/Sharpe entering their prime - and then drafting Brown one year and Tatum the next. It could be a dynasty.

    Now Miami doesn't have any young studs so they do need to push in all those chips to get Dame! But some Blazers fans talking about how Miami has nothing good in a trade is very shortsighted.
     

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