Notice What’s going on in and around the USA?(infiltration?)

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  1. SharpeScooterShooter

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    Find this interesting and even more concerning.
    I’ve long said that if this country continues to have increasing internal conflicts, our enemies will see that as weakness and an opportunity to try to end the western lifestyle they deem evil.
    Are we starting to see an infiltration of enemies of the state securing footholds to take us over from within?

    All great military strategists will say that the smartest move is to move in under the economical freedoms provided, posing as friendly, secure a financial and property foothold and dismantle our defenses and financial stabilities from within as much as possible, before actually sending in troops, etc.

    Is this the beginning of those types of initial chess moves?
    https://abc7news.com/travis-afb-air-force-base-flannery-associates-llc-john-garamendi/13527836/
     
  2. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Well, probably for starters, not having a former leader sing the praises of dictators would be a good start.
     
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    I don't think we should allow foreign businesses to buy American real estate. In fact, no foreign person who doesn't live here should be allowed to buy real estate in the US.

    Crazy real estate prices are at the root of our homelessness crisis, and US farm land is far too important of a resource to allow control of it to foreign entities.
     
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  4. julius

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    Land or assets or water rights should not be for sale for people outside of the US, imho. I don't know if this is common or not, but I know a friend of mine sold her home to a family in China, who had no intention of moving here, but just bought it as an investment.
     
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    Yep. That should not be allowed. And it's rampant in the US and parts of Canada (though I heard Canada is clamping down on it).
     
  6. SharpeScooterShooter

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    No trump fan but this is more than just about trump, though i don't disagree with you, things like a take over of a leading country takes far more planning than the time frame of one presidency could provide. 911 took years to plan.
    So though i do understand the ramifications of such an influence from a former president, please don't turn this into a trump bashing thread. This is potentially far bigger than him.
     
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    This is it. This is where i stand as well. If you are not a legal citizen residing in the USA, you should not be allowed to purchase any property or business. Period.

    Being too free of a country can indeed be our downfall if the rest of the world does not want us to continue on our current path.

    So lets say we implement such laws/policies. Do we then clamp down on all applications for citizenships from foreign entities looking to move here to continue to buy up our land and businesses all for a long term coup of our country?
     
  8. SlyPokerDog

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    I'm for strong regulations that would protect some vital things like defense and our WATER but prohibiting foreign land ownership in this country would severely damage our economy.

    The economic benefits of being the US dollar being the world's currency would end. No more large-scale foreign investments like we see with foreign auto companies opening plants here.

    Also other countries would retaliate and not allow land ownership in their countries, damaging our economy.
     
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    Despite sluggish economic growth, the U.S. remains the world’s largest consumer market and is the world’s top destination for foreign direct investment (FDI). Hence hundreds of foreign firms have operations in the U.S. to take advantage of this huge market. This process of foreign companies investing in the U.S. and creating jobs is called “Insourcing."

    During the last decade, FDI in the United States jumped by 82% from $179 billion to over $325 billion, resulting in the insourcing of 5.3 million American jobs, or 4.6% of the U.S. workforce. While most U.S. companies' offshore work consists of chasing the cheapest labor available on the planet (even if the quality is poor), it is commendable that some foreign firms actually have confidence in the ability of the high-quality U.S. workforce. The U.S unemployment rate will also be higher if these overseas firms do not invest and create high-paying jobs in the country.

    Some interesting facts about what insourcing companies contribute to the U.S. economy:

    • Write $364.2 billion in paychecks. The average compensation per American worker at Insourcing companies is $68,317, which is 32% higher than compensation at all U.S. companies.
    • Re-invest profits earned in the U.S. back into American operations. Insourcing companies reinvested $68.5 billion of their U.S. profits back into their American operations.
    • Purchase from local suppliers and small businesses. Insourcing companies bought $1.5 trillion in intermediate inputs from U.S. suppliers, amounting to 76.8 cents for every dollar spent of their total input purchases of $1.96 trillion.
    • Conduct American-based research and development. Insourcing companies spent $34.3 billion in the United States on R&D – over 13.8% of all private-sector R&D.
    • Manufacture in America to export to the world. Thirty percent of American jobs at Insourcing companies are in manufacturing, and products made by U.S. workers at these companies account for nearly 19%, or $195.3 billion, of all U.S. exports.
    • Make long-term and strategic investments in the U.S. Many insourcing companies have been in the United States for decades; some have been here for almost a century, demonstrating their commitment to and confidence in the American workforce.
    • Pay U.S. taxes. Insourcing companies paid a record $50 billion in U.S. corporate taxes, over 14% of U.S. corporate taxes.
    The following is a brief overview of the insourcing firms:

    1. Alstom (OTCPK:AOMFF): France-based global transportation infrastructure and energy leader has operations in nearly all 50 states and employs about 6,000 American workers. Alstom trades as an unsponsored ADR.

    2. EADS North America (OTCPK:EADSF): The U.S. operations of Netherlands-based global aerospace and defense giant EADS supports more than 200,000 high-paying American jobs coast to coast. As the largest international customer or U.S. aerospace exports, the company is committed to making America stronger and safer.

    3. Areva (OTC:ARVCF): France-based nuclear power company Areva employs over 6,000 Americans.

    4. BAE Systems (OTCPK:BAESY): The U.S. headquarters of this British defense and aerospace leader is based in Rockville, Maryland. The company employs over 45,000 workers across the country.

    5. Nestle USA (OTCPK:NSRGY): Switzerland-based Nestlé has been in America for over a century. Nestle USA operates 82 U.S. factories and employs over 42,000 American workers. In March 2009, Nestlé opened a new state-of-the-art factory in Anderson, Indiana, an area deeply impacted by the economic downturn. This factory created over 500 high-paying jobs in this poverty-stricken mid-western city where even minimum-wage service-sector jobs are hard to come by.
     
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    Good points though I'm not so sure a stepcback would be an all bad thing for humans.
    Would suck for a generation or two but im not sure this global economy is the best for us long term.
     
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    Flushing a couple of generations down the drain is the easiest way to start civil and world wars. You don't like the homeless problem now, see what it would be like if we nuked our economy for 20 years.
     
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    would it actually be a nuking of our economy or a shift to more localized self sustaining communities for individual communicates in regions?
    Im not saying global trade should stop. Global investing in other countries’ infrastructures from foreign entities with no national US concern is more of the issue here I think.
    There is global trade, which prevents wars, And then there is foreign investing for profit by private entities sometimes with ulterior motives that could put our safety at risk in todays world, with so much termoil and aggression everywhere.
     
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    If we stop allowing foreign direct investment in our country other countries will stop allowing US investment in theirs. The history of our country and the founding basis of our economy was created off of foreign investment. You're advocating to radically change our entire economy because China is buying land next to military bases.

    Now I completely agree that this is not a great idea, but this can be solved by laws and regulations without destroying our economy for 20 years.
     
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    Our government knows and keeps track of land owned by foreign entities, especially land near military bases or other government sites.
     
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    I live in America and bought property in another state as an investment and I’ve been told I should not have been allowed to buy it, especially since I didn’t intend to live in it any time soon (shit changed and I’m living in it now).
     

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