Erm...ok. Seeing as how many of you clearly have a totally different view of how the war is going, I wanted to ask how you thought it would end.
Try rereading the thread comments from square one...if you still don't get it, rinse, and repeat....you are welcome.
Putin will either die because of failing health or be overthrown. Whoever is the next leader will retreat from Ukraine in exchange for the West easing some sanctions. That will instantly improve the Russian economy and help solidify the new leader's power base.
When the military industrial complex, its favored contractors and associated politicians have extracted the last of the profit they can, the effort will be scrapped. Ukraine will be left in shambles, but US backed war profiteers will step in to help rebuild at a premium cost payed for with your money. Most of the supplies and munitions we’ve sent there will go largely unaccounted for and spread across the region, ultimately to be used against us in the near future in whatever campaign we happen to instigate at that time. Endless war for money, a media to push it, and plenty of clueless people to support it…again.
If it was about "war for money", why didn't the US and other countries send arms/equipment/jets/tanks/etc., sooner than they did, and why didn't they happily send even more than they did? Did it cost the US and other countries to aid Ukraine? Of course, but the cost for doing so is a byproduct of supporting Ukraine, not the initial and sole reason for supporting Ukraine.
I'm not certain what the goal is in Ukraine, but I am certain that it's not a humanitarian concern. There are plenty of places we ignore. It has something more to do with the battle of the Anglo American empire to keep world supremacy by boxing in China and Russia. Our intervention has made things 100x worse for Ukraine. And the US continues to push and push, and may end up pushing things to a nuclear war. And the dimwits will be cheering it on.....the stupidity of this word is tragic.
What place have we ignored that has been invaded by a country as strong and as ruthless as Russia? Russia's invasion is nothing more than a land grab and that's it, and they grossly miscalculated by thinking they could just waltz into Ukraine with very little resistance and simply take over ...But Ukraine, the US and other countries are proving them wrong. Russia is not only losing this war, they are becoming weaker by the day. In this case, as happens sometimes, the bully got a black eye...and rightfully so. Russia has become a pariah and will be viewed as such for many years to come. And I don't know how you can justify your position that we and much of the free world has made things so much worse for Ukraine by uniting and coming to Ukraine's aid. What we are doing is righteous, and proper.
https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts The US military budget was $877 billion in 2022. So for approximately 5% of our annual military budget, we have shown how weak and corrupt a Putin-led Russia has become while helping fight an illegal invasion of a country that borders many of our allies.
The agreements were never honored in the first place. That’s why this conflict persists. In 2022 Russia had begun to move troops out of eastern Ukraine (you know, that area where the Ukraine government was bombing its own people) because a deal was on the brink of being made. Victoria Nuland and Boris Johnson stepped in to impede and now hundreds of thousands are dead. Your claim of US involvement being “righteous and proper” is simply insane.
What part of the accords did Ukraine violate? From what I can tell, they are all about withdrawing foreign military and influence from Ukraine. Basically, Russia needed to knock of the shit and Ukraine needed to not invade Russia...
Yemen. Being decimated by the Saudis who are also powerful and ruthless. No, it’s a response to NATO encroachment that was promised multiple times not to happen. That doesn’t justify the aggression, but “Bad guy does evil stuff just cuz evil” is a lazy explanation for this and ignores the blatant facts. Just a fairytale spun by whatever mainstream outlet you watch or read. Three times as many dead Ukrainians as Russians, upwards of 150k to Russias 50k. Not sure if you’re a numbers guy, but Ukraine will run out of troops long before Russia does. They are already sending unqualified and barely trained men to die because they are out of options. Ukraine cannot beat Russia in a war. Never in 1000 years. It’s completely unhinged for people to keep cheerleading this nonsense. This isn’t a basketball game. End it. The rest of the world doesn’t share your high opinion of American foreign policy. We’re basically hated universally for doing much worse shit than what’s happening in Ukraine or Russia, or anywhere else for that matter. We reign death and destruction upon every land we touch and we are absolutely despised for it world wide.
