NBA warns Dame & his agent to stop asking for trade to just one team

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  1. KingSpeed

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    No I was simply debunking your point that dunking doesn’t win championships.
     
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    Sorry that I misspelled his name on my phone that probably spelled it for me?
    Anyway seems you are also a bit overwhelmed with his talent to be reasonable in his progression. He’s a second year player that has shown some flashes of talent. I’ll give you that.
     
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    Well you put any of those players on this team I will agree with you. As it stands there are multiple players in the league that bring what Sharpe brings.
     
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    It isn’t simple if you mean easy, but the Chip never is. It is straightforward in the sense the key is good talent scouts for drafts (we have this in spades!) and accumulating assets (Dame trade is very important). The hardest part IMO is finding good coaching. I still think we should try and lure Brad Stevens from the Celtics FO back into coaching. He’s the best who is pseudo available in the sense he’s not currently a head coach.
     
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    Hahahha wtf? We almost certainly got 2 of the best 3 players in the past two extremely stacked drafts!
     
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    Lmfao! You forgot green font! This is comedy gold though! Please continue with your comedy tight five, you’re killing it!
     
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    I find it very weird you've already counted out players because they can't get the team to situations that.... They haven't even been in.
     
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    That would be great if true? Problem is none of us know that. You certainly don’t know that. I know I don’t know that.
     
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    That isn’t what I said at all but we already know how your posts will go.
    You will make an absolute statement and tell everyone there is no debate.
    The statement I said is true. To this point we have seen nothing from these two.
     
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    Some of us can extrapolate from small sample sizes, scouting, eyeball test and gut. Some of us can't. We will see. Your take is 100% wrong and I'd bet money on Scoot being VASTLY better than "servicable" and we also already know that Sharpe is far, FAR more than "just a dunker" my take may end up being wrong, yours already is wrong.
     
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    Sure. You keep thinking that.
    I see nothing about this team as it stands that is anything better that what it was 3 years ago. Worse now without Lillard but you keep drinking that kool aid and preaching that front office line.
     
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    You're talking about others putting words into people's mouths? I never said the team is better now than 3 years ago, I think our future is way brighter than it was then, but I didn't say that either. I debunked your patently false "Sharp (sic) is just a dunker" and the ridiculous hot take that Scoot will be "servicable" as a PG. I then contended that I also think we got 2 of the top 3 guys in the past two drafts. Your takes were demonstrably false (or ill informed in the case of Scoot) and your straw man is trash.
     
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    btw I'm bumping the fuck out of this thread when Scoot is tearing up the league by the end of the year and people are talking about Portland getting an absolute monster.
     
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    Mods - please transfer this to the Meltdown thread.
     
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    Have at it.
    A lotto team that has a player putting up some stats in losses doesn’t impress.
     
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    Not to be argumentative, but this statement could apply to Dame as well. I know that is incendiary to many here. I know Dame was voted top 75 all time. I'm not hating on him. It is just a fact, that is all. Low hanging fruit.
     
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    but Dame put up big numbers on 54, 53, 51, & 49 win teams; on a back-to-back 3rd seed teams. He has won two playoff series with game winning buzzer beaters, more than anybody but MJ. He's one of the great clutch performers in NBA history. He's a 7 time all-star and a 7 time All-NBA player. He's proven, several times, he can carry a flawed, talent-challenged roster into the playoffs

    it will be a long time before Scoot or Shaedon come anywhere close to that record
     
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    these aren't normal rookies,
    it's impossible to count out an abnormality.
     
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    Dunking certainly isn't a precursor to winning a championship, but Shaedon was also a 36% 3-pt shooter as a 19 year old rookie. That is not bad at all. His eFG% was .551 as a 19 year old rookie. Dame's was .501 as a 22 year old rookie. It's way to early to tell, but for the opportunities Shaedon got, he didn't do too bad.

    As for "Sharp and Scoot have not even got the team to those situations".....really? Scoot has been in the G-League and Sharpe was coming off the bench as a very young rookie. Come on, you're better than that. BTW, the Blazers record Dame's rookie year was 33-49. The Blazers had to TANK to get to 33-49 this year. Perhaps giving players way younger than Dame was as a rookie, a little time to produce might be in order.
     
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    Correct on all points. But so am I. Dame put up big numbers on a lotto team and that must not impress kjironman1 either. No agenda.
     

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