Politics Ukraine / Russia

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  1. UKRAINEFAN

    UKRAINEFAN Well-Known Member

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    We don't know how they voted because no legitimate international body was allowed to monitor the ballots.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    Again comrade, you're all over the place.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Can you explain the details of how Saddam Hussein and Putin have always won elections with over 90% support?

    These are very obviously not legitimate elections.

    Just because Russia (Putin) claims it was an open and fair election doesn't mean it was.
     
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  4. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    Because someone paid you $50 to make it happen...if so, it would only be fair for you to refund that money because you failed to make it a reality.
     
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    it was as factual as any of the bullshit you’re posting then, cool
     
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    seems legit!
     
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    ehizzy3 RIP mgb

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    By the way

    let’s not forget who it is that is raping women, trafficking children, torturing, the massacre in Bucha, sabotaging the dam, blowing up grain depots

    hint: it’s Russia
     
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  8. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    "North Vietnam cannot beat the USA in a war. Never in 1000 years."

    barfo
     
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    Might wanna double check on the dam thing. Look up Nordstream II while you’re at it.
     
  10. UKRAINEFAN

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    Right. Let's not forget who invaded whom. The war is portrayed as good vs evil because that is precisely what it is.
     
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    Sorry, Nazis in Ukraine are well known and well documented. The Azov battalion is only the most prominent one, but there are multiple factions from government insiders and influencers, paramilitary groups, all the way down to hoards of skinhead soccer hooligans. Nazis are more than a small problem there. Most of the western media has even admitted it at this point, but try to explain it away as a “necessary inconvenience”. This isn’t a dig on the people there, because I truly feel sorry for them—but Ukraine has been known to be perhaps the most corrupt governments in Europe for quite some time.
     
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    If Vietnam is your parallel for an example of how Ukraine could “win” a war, you’re proving my point for me. Nobody won in Vietnam.
     
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    So the answer to this "corruption" is to have the even more corrupt Russia invade and fix it for them?
     
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    I'm not gonna quibble with you. I think you have an ideological bent that governs your way of thinking about russia's war against Ukraine. I doubt that you care about Ukraine or her people. I refer you again to Prigozhin, leader of russia's Wagner group who reveals he doesn't think there are nazis in Ukraine and that that was just an excuse for colonial exploitation.
     
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    Russia isn’t trying to take over the entirety Ukraine, there is really nothing to suggest that nor is it strategically significant to do so. It’s a battle for specific areas that have been contested for hundreds of years where borders and influences have changed multiple times. This doesn’t give Russia a pass for their aggression, but you have to at least argue the facts at hand and not hyperbolic theories.
     
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    OK, I'll bite, how many Nazi's in Ukraine?... what percent?...This should be fun.


    So what?...In the US we probably have a few neo-Catholic/Baptist/Protestant/Presbyterian/Liberal/Progressive/Commie-Pinko (no, that's barfo)/Union/Confederate/Arab/Jew/pre 2000/ people...just a guess.
     
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  20. barfo

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    Well, then I really don't understand what your definition of winning a war could be.

    Nobody on your side gets hurt and everyone gets a pretty new dress and a unicorn?

    barfo
     
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