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  1. Tince

    Tince Well-Known Member

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    I agree, I think the global situation of Fox/ESPN + College Football controlling conference alignment sucks in many areas. Nobody should celebrate OSU being kicked to the curb and nobody should be angry with Oregon for joining the B1G given the circumstances.
     
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    I've seen plenty both directions, for years...for decades. But Duck fans are not envious and bitter about Beaver success

    besides, I was talking about some OSU officals, and a lot of Beaver fans pointing at Oregon as a big reason the Pac-12 failed. It's fucking ridiculous
     
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    that is what happens when a sport does not have an anti-trust exemption. And there is simply no way NCAA sports can get one. The 1984 SCOTUS ruling was where this situation germinated. Took nearly 40 years and a subsequent SCOTUS ruling dealing with athlete compensation and NIL to get to the semi-controlled chaos of today
     
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    I'm not sure what the answer is. The NCAA doesn't have the best interest of the schools, athletes, fans either.
     
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    False. Maybe you don't feel that way but this is sports. I've met Duck fans that have been complete haters on everything the Beavs do. And were happy Ducks baseball could poach Beavers recruits.
     
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    there might not be an answer

    the NCAA is trying to tighten the rules on transfers and the transfer portal. But I saw an analysis by a sports attorney a while back. I may have some things a bit off of what he said, but here's how I saw it: he was saying the recent SCOTUS ruling essentially said that the NCAA had very little authority to regulate an athlete's right to pursue compensation for the talent and NIL. That the NCAA had an extremely narrow ramp to build on that didn't infringe on those rights

    he talked about transfers and the transfer portal. About how the NCAA wanted to impose a 1 year wait in some circumstances. He said that would be challenged and overturned. His reasoning was an example he used of a a starting QB at one university who had a $250,000 NIL deal for a season. But if he transferred to another university with immediate eligibility te next season and could sign a $900,000 NIL deal there, the NCAA imposing a 1 year waiting period would be a direct infringement on that player's right for compensation

    he also predicted that the NCAA rule prohibiting NIL deals based upon performance would probably be legally challenged eventually and overturned because the NCAA did not have the authority to prohibit merit based compensation

    yeah, it's a wild west of the rich getting richer, but that's really not a departure from what has been going on for 30 years
     
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    I've met beaver fans who eat puppies and hate America
     
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    I would tend to agree there is no school that doesn't have a percentage of their fans who irrationally dislike their rival and wish them to lose every game/recruit possible. Since you brought up baseball, I'm sure you're aware there were Beaver fans strongly rooting against Oregon when they most recently played in the super regional. Does those fans make the OSU fanbase awful? No.

    Personally, I go by these rules when rooting for college sports:
    1. Root for Oregon
    2. When Oregon isn't playing, what team winning/losing helps Oregon the most
    3. Root for Oregon St
    4. Root for the upset.
    I'd root for Washington, Oregon St, and USC all in the same weekend if it benefited Oregon, but everyone fans differently.
     
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    Who doesn't?
     
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    Of course I know Beavers fans that would root against everything Oregon.

    Just like a Ducks fan in this very thread that went all Laker to Blazer fan like about the Beavers never being a rival to the Ducks.
     
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    I just want it on the record that I have not made one joke about Beaver fans having sex with sheep since this all started.
     
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    That is because you get jealous. Picture of you from your orgy last weekend.

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    I was a baaaaaaaaaaaaad dog!
     
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    I do know a lot of Duck fans who consider OSU to be their second favorite team. It's not that uncommon. I also don't understand why that would frustrate OSU fans. Who cares if some Duck fans don't consider OSU to be their rival? It doesn't change anything.
     
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    I root for both teams. I lean slightly more Ducks, but if the game meant more for the Beavers than Ducks, I root Beavers. Always enjoyed Beaver baseball more, though.
     
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    I know other people who say this. That line of thinking is very difficult for me to comprehend, but I'm a sicko.

    It also sounds like you lean towards simply being a band-wagon fan!
     
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    I root for Ducks, then Beavers, then PAC.

    At least, historically... I'll never root for USC or UCLA again. In the past I've supported them when they've played out of conference.

    Never again.
     
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    Laker fans do the same thing to Blazer fans sometimes.

    How many Civil War games have you been to?
     

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