I'd do this deal every day and twice on Sunday. Why would Toronto do that?[/QUOTE] What are you smoking bro? You want to trade a young 22 who has not even reached his prime for that garbage? Bad take my friend, that makes zero sense.
Getting Wright and Gallo would be a great move for Portland's youngsters. Both are solid vets who would be great mentors to the team.
The problem with Harden is not that he isn't a star, but that he's an old star. I don't think anyone wants to max him for 4-5 more years. He's about to turn 34 in about a week. He's already showing signs of slowing down. However, if they give him up for a weak return, I can't see Embiid wanting to stay there. I'm not as confident as you seem to be about how that starting lineup would fare.
I'm not certain it would be better or that Philly would go for it. Just seems close enough with enough chances of being better that its a real possibility Philly might be interested in it. Does Morey think Herro could improve in their system and either be a better player there or later flipped for more value? Maybe he does or maybe he thinks Herro is way overrated and he'd have no interest. I just see it as a legit proposal that has benefits to all 4 teams. It makes sense for the Blazers to flip Herro and Martin to 3rd teams in a Dame trade and get as many picks as possible.
What are you smoking bro? You want to trade a young 22 who has not even reached his prime for that garbage? Bad take my friend, that makes zero sense.[/QUOTE] Now why would the Raps do that, because the salaries match up?
Is their "mentorship" also worth paying Robinson and Powell a combined $115M over the next 3 years? I really don't think so.
Blazers get 6 unprotected picks PLUS two unprotected swaps Miami gets Dame and Nurk Spurs get Simons for two picks Nets dump Simmons for better contracts in Herro, a rookie in Jaquez, for two picks that aren't their own.
Fair enough. But I think it’s unusual for a team to trade a quality player for a draft pick three years down the road. Most teams will want a return on their money sooner than that.
The Toronto trade of Dame for Scotty Barnes and filler is still my favorite in terms of the best player coming back to the Blazers.
Its a benefit to have the picks many years out - not a cost. Miami will be good next year. We don't want a pick from them soon. We want it way out in 2028 or 2030 when Pat Riley is in his mid 80's, Dame is 40, and that franchise has had multiple years of no young talent being added to the roster. That pick can be traded in months, traded in years, or just help in order for the Blazers to add talent at a low cost if they can build a winner around Scoot and Sharpe with other tools. I wish we had got future assets like that back in a LaMarcus or Rasheed/etc trade. Even if it was 7 years out - that may have given us tools to build a winner around Dame. The franchise was shortsighted then. Lets hope they don't make the same mistake now with Scoot/Sharpe. Saying you aren't interested in a draft pick 7 years from now is like saying you don't want Apple stock because it will not be liquidated for cash soon. You can trade it whenever you want, or just hold it for that time when a move makes sense. Having draft assets is always a good thing. Players eventually become free agents, leave, or stay and retire, or just decline and become overpaid/worthless. Draft picks will always have value, and if the Blazers get a lucky break with Miami future record or the lottery they could become a goldmine just as Boston got from the Nets in the Tatum/Brown duo.
Having multiple 3rd teams in a Dame to Miami trade is nothing but good. Having completely independent options like the Spurs, Nets, OKC, Philly, LAC, Toronto, etc gives the Blazers more leverage to extract a very fair price in a Dame trade.
you guys have kind of bollixed the quote function. Hard to tell who is saying what anyway, Ant is not a "young 22". He's 24 and will be entering his 6th season in the NBA. There's no major untapped reserve of upside there. He is what he is and you know what you're getting. He will get better, but he won't get taller and he won't magically become a good defender. He will never be 3&D; never be a two-way wing
Hell no. I completely agree there. The trade proposal was crap to begin with. I just think both Gallo/Wright would be good targets to bring in. Maybe something more like this.
Why not Dame to Miami, Harden to Chicago and LeVine to PDX? Obviously more would have to go into the trade to make it work.
Lol, just turned 24, and 22 to 24 is no different really. you just contradicted yourself, you said he would get better, and then went on to list many things he “won’t” improve in like you hold a crystal ball in your hands. Plus, not sure why you feel the need to completely miss the point. Regardless if you think those things, he is still worth more than that garbage Raptor deal that the poster said he would do in a heartbeat, and that was my point. I said we haven’t seen his full potential, you said he will get better. So ya, kinda agreeing with me then contradicting yourself lol
