Politics The Joe Biden Thread

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Ok then. So I still disagree, but I do understand your point. I just think Obamacare eliminated a whole lot of that, since you can buy insurance now as an individual at a reasonable cost (comparable to what corporations pay). It's vastly far from an ideal situation, but a person who can afford not to work has no reason to feel enslaved by employer healthcare.

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    Solid point. I've not had any experience with Obamacare.
     
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    Hmm... I should swing by for brunch sometime...
     
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    In an interview, Cornel West said he would sit down with President Xi of China to talk war and environment. Apparently China supporting Putin in Ukraine and churning out greenhouse gases is because previous presidents wouldn't sit? Or maybe West has such extraordinary powers of persuasion?

    In a jaw dropping both siderism he said he would do the same with Zelensky. Ukraine is not an aggressor. West made it clear he would reduce aid to Ukraine because they did mean things to Russia. After being invaded.

    Great alternative. Biden is old but clear headed enough to know difference between aggressor and victim.
     
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    We should be cutting aid to Israel and Ukraine significantly. Until the citizens of this country start getting the same things as the citizens of other countries, we shouldn't be spending somewhere else.
     
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    Biden supporters keep score of Biden's "wins", yet will never ever accept Biden's failures, or his corruption. Might as well be talking to a Trump supporter...

    America got rid of monopolies before I was born. Does a Biden supporter know how many monopolies America currently has? Of course they don't. I can't even find an end to the number of monopolies their are in America. But they shouldn't be there with the laws we already have in place.

    Biden hasn't ended one monopoly since taking office. Of course he hasn't, Biden is owned by our oligarchy.

    Biden hasn't ended "For Profit Prisons". Of course he hasn't, Biden is owned by our oligarchy.

    Biden hasn't helped one American off of our sidewalks. Of course he hasn't. Biden doesn't care about the poor. Same as his oligarchy owners.

    If I had my full faculties I could easily make a larger list of Biden's failures. Will his followers accept it? Of course not, they only care about defending Biden. Same as a Trump supporter only cares about defending Trump.

    I see no difference between a Trump supporter and a Biden supporter. Neither side will accept facts, unless those facts are a positive for their candidate or party. No negative, no facts about failures will ever make it through.

    This is why it is a complete waste of time to talk politics to either side. Facts be damned...



    Edit: The entirety of the west coast is turning into one giant homeless camp with crime abounding. I believe the democrats control the west coast states. Sure republicans turn a blind eye to their states own homeless problems. But, If a democrat truly cared about humans, their would be little to no homeless in their states at all. Yet their are miles and miles of homeless in California.

    Our sidewalks show how much democrats care about human life. Which is, not at all.
     
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    If it's a waste of time, why post long screeds assuming you know other people's thoughts?
     
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    Fox "news" outraged because Biden petted a search and rescue dog in Maui.

    Hate dogs. That wins a lot of votes, Republicans!
     
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    What things are the citizens of Ukraine getting that you want? Missiles? Amputations?

    I'm not sure I understand the basis for the jealousy here.

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    Kinda just looks like he's looking down and listening...

    Dude looks old though. No doubt.
     
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    We need medicare for all, affordable education, affordable housing, etc before we send billions to Ukraine or any other country.

    You don't understand that?
     
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    I was having fun with your phrasing - I don't think we are providing any of those things to Ukraine.
    That said, I don't think it's an either/or choice. We can (in theory) do everything on your list, plus send aid to Ukraine.
    The problem isn't a lack of money.

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    I generally agree, but that just isn't the case at the moment.

    It's absolutely inexplicable Hawaiians are getting a one time $700 check while we're shoveling hundreds of billions to weapons manufacturers and defense contractors.
     
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    Well, if the Hawaiians made weapons, we'd be able to pay them more.

    What is a fair amount of money to provide the victims of this sort of thing (fires, earthquakes, hurricanes, landslides, etc)?
    Should it be income or asset dependent? Should we pay more if deaths occur? Take into account the value of the property destroyed?
    Should people who live in flood plains or build on unstable soil get less? Compensate for loss of business income? Mental anguish?
    Loss of appetite?

    It's a complicated question, I think. $700 may not be the right number, but I don't know what the right number is.

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    I don't know. It seems like you're sympathizing with the corporate Democrat mantra that everything needs to be means-tested.
     
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    Seems like we could pretty easily dock a cruise ship or two near there to house and feed everyone who lost a home in the fires while they wait for FEMA to rebuild their homes...
     
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    Tucker Carlson and other right wing media using doctored video to make it look like Biden was asleep. Also, he petted a dog.
     
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    "I'm just asking questions..."

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