I was a lot higher on Ant last summer. But after last season, I have really altered my opinion. He's CJ 2.0, only not as good as CJ 1.0
I would make the trade, but flip Brogdan for another pick or two. I think he has more immediate value than Ant.
I’m not sure the Celtics would make that trade right now. I actually think Brogdon is a perfect fit with this team if this trade goes through. $22.5m/yr for 2 seasons isn’t a terrible contract, and we can’t just gut the team and put abunch of 18-24 yos and expect any foundation to be built. Brodgon is a good vet and can back up either guard position. We would be fortunate to milk 2 1sts for Ant. Brogdon isn’t going to get you another pick or two unless you’re talking about 2nds. But at that point, I’d rather have some vet leadership on the squad. You really think Ant is worth 4 1sts (1-2 from a Brogdon deal like you’ve suggested)?
If Chauncey likes Sharpe at SF then I think it is ok. But we are talking about trading a guard for 2 more guards and 2 low first-round picks. This does not excite me as much as some of the other fantasy trades I have seen from fans
No, absolutely not. But if we luck out and get Brogdan and 2 frp's for Ant, take it and then evaluate the value Brogdan carries. Something eventually trade wise has to favor the Blazers. Law of averages.
Nope. This stat is basically complete garbage. Its a proprietary ESPN formula. They take estimates of estimates to come up with a ranking.
Ant for 2 low 1sts and a vet is actually a decent package. Unless we get a long term forward for Ant, 2 1sts at all for Ant is a lot considering he hasn’t made an AS game yet. Some here have mentioned Ant for Ayton, which is a lateral move to me. Guys like Murphy and Jones won’t be available for Ant. Let’s just say Dame gets his way and he goes to Miami, and we get their 1sts in ‘24, ‘28, ‘30 + swaps in ‘27. 2024: POR, MIA 2025: POR, BOS 2026: POR 2027: POR/MIA, BOS 2028: POR, MIA 2029: POR 2030: POR, MIA That is a whole lot of picks before we even trade Grant. What Ant trades that are remotely realistic have you seen from other fans that you like?
If we got 2 1sts for Ant, I think that is the something that favors the Blazers, trade wise. I’d be happy with Brogdon still on the squad. Brogdon can be a mentor that can still actually play. He’s a great third guard to have behind Shae and Scoot. His deal would expire after Shae’s third year. Next year, with Dame gone for more pieces, we’re going to have more cap space. I’ve been a big proponent of overpaying for a guy like OG next summer for 3 years, expiring the same year Scoot’s rookie extension kicks in. If Grant was on the team still: Scoot/Brogdon/Mays Shae/Thybulle/Rupert OG/Shae/Kris/Little Grant/Walker/Kris ____/____/____ Suddenly this team looks pretty decent, and this would only be after next summer. Whatever 1sts we get back should be spent looking for the best 6-8+ guys for the next several years. I’m fine overpaying for guys like OG and Grant, but not Turner and Crabbe.
If the Clippers don't get Harden, they might be interested. Trouble is, they've got jack shit to offer. Brogdon might be a bit pissed with Boston FO given that he was effectively traded and then the trade was changed.
I'd like to see a Lillard trade to Toronto (OG + filler) or to Brooklyn (includes Claxton) ASAP. Then -- watch Simons have his best season to bring the lowball valuations -- here and elsewhere -- well above higher paid combo guards (as he'll do just fine at PG when Scoot is getting 30+ minutes). Yes. I look forward to that. As to CJ? Ant is equal to him, now. And CJ's game at 31, IMHO, is not going to age well as a non-physical, sub-par defender who is neither a threat to get to the hoop nor having the range that Ant has now.
Do people forget that the Celtics already agreed to trade Brogdon this offseason but couldn't because of his health and his inability to pass a physical? It might cost something just to get off of him. He has no value.
Simons is a long range scorer on less then max contract. 20+ppg doesn't grow on trees in Portland. Ant's not going anywhere anytime soon. There will be riots if Blazer fans don't get free chicken nuggets.
I'm not against Brogdon, but I would rather have a center seeing how Nurk is injury prone and doesn't attack the basket hard. Brogdon is duplication at a position the Blazers are hopefully good at. Yes, I know a bench is critical, but rounding out the starting five is where I would start. Nurk is a back up in my estimation, and an expensive one at that. I'd love to get Claxton (most likely as a free agent), Ayton or even Allen from Cleveland.
We couldn’t even get a 1st trading him away the first time. Why are we suddenly going to get one this time around? Mann and Powell is a terrible package for Ant. Oh no, no, no. Absolutely, no.
If the intention is to get Ayton for Ant, that is the definition of a lateral move. I don’t think Claxton would be available even for Dame, but I love the idea of clearing all the cap space in the world to throw a huge contract at him. Allen might be available if they give up on the two-big lineup. I think Allen-for-Grant is the deal if it ever happens.
