<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Insiders InsightsThe Saints hope to address major needs on the first day with three selections. They will entertain all trades to move back from the No. 2 overall spot ? with offers already from the Jets and Broncos. They each have two first-round picks. Look for multiple picks on defense where they have key needs: Middle linebacker, cornerback and tackle. They want to add a tough linebacker with the ability to be an every-down defender and have A.J. Hawk on their first-round list. They may look for an interior offensive lineman early in addition to selecting Ferguson at the No. 2 spot. The Saints like tight ends Marcedes Lewis and Joe Klopfenstein for selection in the early third round.</div>http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=riva...raft_team_needs
Yeah why would the Broncos want to trade up... doesn't really make sense.They don't really need a young QB just yet. If they want Vernon Davis, #2 is too high...
My guess is the Jets offer is a lowballed offer, If I had to guess it likely is #4 and #35 and it came right along with a note that said 'No negotaitions, take it or leave it'. Simple because If the Saints really do love either Mario Williams or D'Brickashaw Ferguson then they will be left with no other choice to trade with us, or not at all because if they trade further down we will likely take their target at #4 overall. Tannenbaum is also quickly picking up a reputation as a hard negotiator and after winning standoffs with Pennington, the Falcons (Abraham), and the Redskins (Ramsey)....I dont see him paying for top doller on anything now.What suprises me about this though is it says that the Jets very well could be targeting a QB like Leinart, and if we cant get him for the right price, then quite possibly Cutler via a trade down.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Apr 17 2006, 08:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah why would the Broncos want to trade up... doesn't really make sense.They don't really need a young QB just yet. If they want Vernon Davis, #2 is too high...</div>....Mario Williams.They chased Abraham until they thought his asking price was too high, they let go of their starting Defensive End in Pryce. Seems to be like they're targeting Williams via a trade up.
i think you are giving GM's too much/too little credit. If the saints and the jets want the deal done, it will get done and please both teams. No lowball deal will go through
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bobferg @ Apr 17 2006, 08:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i think you are giving GM's too much/too little credit. If the saints and the jets want the deal done, it will get done and please both teams. No lowball deal will go through</div>I didnt say I expected a lowball deal to go through, but seeing how Tannenbaum works as a GM and a negotiator thats what I think he probably did. The only way I see a deal getting done between the Jets and the Saints, is if the Saints get desperate trying to trade down and accept less then fair value to still get their #1 choice. I dont think that is going to happen though. I think in the end the Saints will either trade further down and have to target somebody else, or stay at #2 overall, because I dont see the Jets being willing to give in to the Saints demands.
I don't see the Jets offering the ransom to move up. IF they've made an offer, then I doubt it's near asking price. I can put in an offer at a car dealership, doesn't mean I'll get the car, even if it's the highest offer.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Apr 17 2006, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't see the Jets offering the ransom to move up. IF they've made an offer, then I doubt it's near asking price. I can put in an offer at a car dealership, doesn't mean I'll get the car, even if it's the highest offer.</div>Exactly.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Jets | Team liking R. Bush; but won't move upThu, 20 Apr 2006 06:24:57 -0700Gary Myers, of the New York Daily News, reports the New York Jets are smitten with USC RB Reggie Bush, but will not call the Houston Texans about moving up to the top spot to get him, even with Houston willing to listen to trade offers. There are many smokescreens out and about at this time of the year, but Wednesday night, April 19, Texans general manager Charley Casserly insisted that Houston has not decided between the dynamic Bush and North Carolina State DE Mario Williams. Casserly said he hasn't received any offers for the No.1 pick. "It doesn't mean we won't," he said. "We are open to offers." One source believes Casserly is trying to use Williams to create leverage in negotiations with Bush's agent, Joel Segal. Casserly, naturally, rejected that theory and also said he is not trying to entice trade offers by talking up Williams.Jets | V. Davis entering the pictureThu, 20 Apr 2006 06:29:33 -0700Bob Glauber and Ken Berger, of Newsday, report there is increased speculation in league circles that the New York Jets are giving serious consideration to drafting Maryland TE Vernon Davis, whom some scouts consider one of the best talents at his position in years. The 6-3, 254-pound Davis has been on the rise on draft boards all spring because of his athleticism, 4.4 speed in the 40-yard dash and ability to stretch the field. Last season at Maryland, Davis had 51 catches for 871 yards and six touchdowns.</div>I would seriously hate Venom and the Jets forever if they take Duke
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Apr 20 2006, 06:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Jets | Team liking R. Bush; but won't move upThu, 20 Apr 2006 06:24:57 -0700Gary Myers, of the New York Daily News, reports the New York Jets are smitten with USC RB Reggie Bush, but will not call the Houston Texans about moving up to the top spot to get him, even with Houston willing to listen to trade offers. There are many smokescreens out and about at this time of the year, but Wednesday night, April 19, Texans general manager Charley Casserly insisted that Houston has not decided between the dynamic Bush and North Carolina State DE Mario Williams. Casserly said he hasn't received any offers for the No.1 pick. "It doesn't mean we won't," he said. "We are open to offers." One source believes Casserly is trying to use Williams to create leverage in negotiations with Bush's agent, Joel Segal. Casserly, naturally, rejected that theory and also said he is not trying to entice trade offers by talking up Williams.Jets | V. Davis entering the pictureThu, 20 Apr 2006 06:29:33 -0700Bob Glauber and Ken Berger, of Newsday, report there is increased speculation in league circles that the New York Jets are giving serious consideration to drafting Maryland TE Vernon Davis, whom some scouts consider one of the best talents at his position in years. The 6-3, 254-pound Davis has been on the rise on draft boards all spring because of his athleticism, 4.4 speed in the 40-yard dash and ability to stretch the field. Last season at Maryland, Davis had 51 catches for 871 yards and six touchdowns.</div>I would seriously hate Venom and the Jets forever if they take Duke </div>Yeah, im sure youd totally be pissed if we let someone like D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Mario Williams or A.J. Hawk fall right in your laps.
Bush, Mario, and Brick should be the first three picks. Then Davis goes to NY, and Hawk goes to GB. 49ers are left with QBs and no VD
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ Apr 20 2006, 08:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bush, Mario, and Brick should be the first three picks. Then Davis goes to NY, and Hawk goes to GB. 49ers are left with QBs and no VD </div>Thats a possibility, but I just dont see the Titans passing on Matt Leinart should he be there at #3 overall.
i think that Vernon Davis is intriguing...tahts not a bad offense...coles, davis, McCariens and Martin/rookie RB...and Kiper is saying the Jets are seriously considering taking a nonQB first, then grabbing Brodie Croyle with 29th or 35th
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Apr 20 2006, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i think that Vernon Davis is intriguing...tahts not a bad offense...coles, davis, McCariens and Martin/rookie RB...and Kiper is saying the Jets are seriously considering taking a nonQB first, then grabbing Brodie Croyle with 29th or 35th</div>Have the Jets met with Croyle? I know we've met with Young, Cutler, Leinart, Clemens, and Whitehurst... hadn't heard that we had a pre-draft meeting with Croyle though...Croyle in the first will not happen. I'll put a 5 dollar bet on that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Apr 20 2006, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i think that Vernon Davis is intriguing...tahts not a bad offense...coles, davis, McCariens and Martin/rookie RB...and Kiper is saying the Jets are seriously considering taking a nonQB first, then grabbing Brodie Croyle with 29th or 35th</div>I dont think the Jets are really interested in Croyle.It seems like we've interviewed EVERY major QB BUT Croyle. Weve interviewed Leinart, Young, Cutler, Clements, and Whitehurst, but not Croyle. When Kiper was talking about picking a QB at either 29 or 35 he was referring to Kellen Clements from Oregon...which would be a major mistake IMO. If were not going after one of the big 3 its gotta be either Whitehurst or Jacobs that is the choice IMO.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Apr 20 2006, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Apr 20 2006, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i think that Vernon Davis is intriguing...tahts not a bad offense...coles, davis, McCariens and Martin/rookie RB...and Kiper is saying the Jets are seriously considering taking a nonQB first, then grabbing Brodie Croyle with 29th or 35th</div>I dont think the Jets are really interested in Croyle.It seems like we've interviewed EVERY major QB BUT Croyle. Weve interviewed Leinart, Young, Cutler, Clements, and Whitehurst, but not Croyle. When Kiper was talking about picking a QB at either 29 or 35 he was referring to Kellen Clements from Oregon...which would be a major mistake IMO. If were not going after one of the big 3 its gotta be either Whitehurst or Jacobs that is the choice IMO.</div>I hope we don't use anything higher than a 3rd rounder on a QB. Croyle, Whitehurst, or Clemens will be there in the 3rd round if we really want a rookie QB.The main reason I don't see us drafting a QB in the first is that it would be a slap in the face to Chad Pennington, who had to be reassured that he was the main guy in New York in order for him to rework his contract.
