Toronto Raptors Dame trade ideas and rumors

I like this three-team trade that gets the Nurk for Ayton trade as part of things. I think it works for all teams and preserves some of Toronto's limited depth. Knox is there just for salary purposes. Creating a Core of Scoot, Sharpe, Simons, Barnes and Ayton is straight up delicious!

 

I believe he said he would. And if it is Toronto or Brooklyn I think after a couple of days he will be excited about the potential.
What I wouldn't do is talk to him first. Just trade for him and then sell him on why he is a good fit. Which should not be too hard except for maybe the weather in the winter.

 

I feel like if Barnes was available, this trade would've been done already, also correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Toronto only have 2 first to trade?

 

LOL, not only did it need to be said, but I've been saying it pretty much all summer long and now into the Fall! Miami is now my villain team in the league by a significant margin.

 

Knox can't be traded.
This also puts Portland into the tax. Just send Thad Young to PHX

 

Maybe he wasn't, but something shifted in Ujiri's thinking. That makes me less wanting Barnes, but he's by far the best young piece I can imagine that is actually in the realm of remote possibility. I think Barnes has all the upside in the world and believe that he can correct the atrocious shooting and get it to the reasonable level. We need defenders who are switchable and Barnes is still fairly elite in that category, with Scoot's magic he could really flourish as a cutter especially if he has 2 of Sharpe, GTJ in my trade scenario(s) and Simons also on the floor out at the 3pt line. Barnes could really go off as a cutter in that environment.

 

That is a lot cleaner thanks! I think Barnes and a still young Trent while not the best haul, is also A) the best young player at a position of need no less, that is reasonably available (only due to all the Toronto rumors) and B) NOT Miami, which I value at a FRP or two at this point.

 

Dame doesn't have to say anything because everyone knows he'll report. He's a baller like Durant, he's not going to pull a Ben Simmons.

Dame agent might make some threats to steer Dame to Miami but its all empty talk.

There are many reports Dame and the Blazers have accepted if a trade doesn't happen he'll be at camp, although both sides would prefer a deal gets done sooner than later.

 

I love Scottie Barnes the most of any player in trade ideas but MM said his name hasn't come up at all - he might be untouchable in Dame trade talks. Would presume OG is the player they are floating, unless Masai is just throwing out lowball offers.

 

Dame has spent a dozen winters in Portland - he'll be fine heading south for a winter in Toronto.

 

well, if he's comparing tax rates between Florida and Canada....

 

I think his shooting will improve.

You missed one more thing about Barnes. He has become a solid playmaker through only two seasons. 4.8/2.0 assists to turnover ratio, very impressive for a young forward, given he is also already so strong in other areas.

When Scoot is on the bench, surround him with Ant, Sharpe, Grant, and another shooter. Scottie Barnes in a couple seasons has a high likelihood of becoming a Ben Simmons kind of player. Simmons, Draymond, we’ve needed someone like this for so long. Obviously, if Barnes is available, he’s my #1 target.

 

Agree 100%. He has shot over 50% from the 2-point range both years and shot 77% from the line last year.
His 3-point shot will improve and if it doesn't I don't care because of what else he brings every night. I think he fits in perfectly next to Grant on the front line and at 225 lbs can play both forward positions.

I assume that Boucher's 11 million would also need to be included along with Porter and Young who we could flip or cut. Precious would be ideal to add but to be honest if we got the 22-year-old Barnes, I could care less about anything else including draft picks. Now I know SharpesTriumph will spit up his coffee when he reads that, but realistically with Toronto having to give up 5-6 players just to match salaries, I doubt they will be willing to add picks as well. I wouldn't if I were them.

Long-term Scoot, Sharpe, and Barnes is a solid trio to build abound. I even think Murray's and Simon's skill set fits in well with that group too.

 

Barnes is actually one of the few players I'm totally ok getting instead of great picks. Sounds like Toronto has zero interest though.

Its the OG/Siakam/Jaylen Brown/Claxton guys instead of picks I hate the idea of - as they don't make sense now with Dame gone, and later will be of little value on their looming extensions. I greatly prefer unprotected picks to those players.

 

If Toronto is actually interested in Dame, then they have to include OG. It is one or the other (Barnes or OG)
So let's say Toronto is willing to part with OG, what is a realistic package we should take? He does have 2 years left as does Boucher.
I would say Precious needs to be included as well. That just leaves filler (either Young or Porter-Toronto's choice)

Given that how many picks would you demand before we walk away from the offer? I don't think we could get more than one.
I would be happy with OG as our SF next to Grant, with Boucher and Precious as backups.

 

Claxton is exactly the guy Portland should be interested. Twenty four and developing great.

 

I can see Toronto making sense as the 3rd team moving OG for Herro. They get a good scorer and playmaker who is already locked in, versus OG, who can potentially walk, and likely make more than Herro. And run with a 2/3/4 of Herro, Barnes, siakim.
There's risk for us in OG walking as well. I don't mind overpaying him because we still have Sharpe and Scoot on their lower rookie scale deals for the majority of OGs large extension.
I can see Cronin not expecting next year to be a full on bottoming out(why retain grant if that was the ultimate goal), because there isn't that amazing wemby type prospect. I can see a Scoot/Sharpe/OG/Grant/Ayton lineup, where you have young vets that could potentially grow together, and gives talent around Scoot and Sharpe to still learn good habits versus gunning and tanking.

 

You're probably right: TOR won't give up Barnes. OG and other stuff

 

two picks, minimum, because OG will almost certainly opt out next summer and could leave. He's overrated too, IMO, at least in terms of him being 26 and a long ways below all-star level. Blazers could end up paying 90M/year for Grant-Ant-OG and none of those guys close to all-star level

Toronto would have to send out close to 37M in salary. OG + Boucher leaves them about 6.5M short. I'd like McDaniels but that would require a 1 for 4 trade and the Blazers don't have the room