Toronto Raptors Dame trade ideas and rumors

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  1. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    OG will be a free agent after the season so its only an expiring deal he is locked up for.

    I just don't think the Blazers need to focus on finishing piece of their starting lineup right now as your describing. They need need to add assets and develop young players. Yes its good to have some contributing veterans, but that can be Thybulle level players - it doesn't need to be very good starters or borderline allstar that are worth multiple unprotected picks.

    If Toronto is offering the most assets I'd route OG elsewhere for picks. Its his injury history and upcoming months until that massive extension starts that greatly concern me, not his age or current level of play.

    I'd prefer LaVine coming back and I'm not a LaVine fan - at least his contract is locked up so the Blazers have over a year to figure it out. OG would be another immediate concerns of how to flip him or risk he walks or sign him to an overpaid Grant type of deal. That would take away all future financial flexibility for this roster that just isn't good enough yet.
     
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    Yeah, I need to stop looking at the ESPN trade machine for "years left" on the contract. Yes OG has just one year left as
    you say. But I do like the energy Precious gives in a position of need.....so he needs to be included as well. I would rather have him than 1 of those 2 draft picks. He would be a fan favorite IMO. Still a 1-4 trade but we could redirect Porter or Young.
     
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    If we can sign him in free agency - yes I'm on board.

    If we have to give up multiple picks just for the chance to overpay him, as well as risk him walking for nothing in free agency? No it just doesn't make sense.
     
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    Sure in theory if we can get a ton of picks AND OG we do it - I just don't see Toronto ever offering that, we need to choose one or the other.

    I'd be shocked if its under $100 million for those 3 - OG is better than both Grant and Simons so he's getting more, likely the max or very close. Grant's deal goes up to $36 million and Ant $28 million.

    Just doesn't make sense to have the big return from a Dame trade be the opportunity to pay OG so much. The alternative to not paying him is he is a one year rental which obviously is stupid as well.

    OG should go to a team that wants to win now - it makes the most sense and they should be willing to give up the most value for him.
     
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    OG has a player option for next season. A guy that can opt out can't be the most valuable thing we get out of a trade for Dame. A rental in a year where it's not likely we even make the playoffs?!?

    If the Raptors want Dame without giving up Scottie then they need to send expiring contracts, Dick, probably Koloko and there FRPs in 2028 and 2030.
     
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    So there was a rumor awhile back about Toronto trading Siakam to Atlanta and it sounded very close to happening and then fell apart for some reason. What do you guys think of this trade? We get a grip of young wings to choose from, Ayton, and a bunch of picks. The Suns get desperately needed cap relief and it's rumored Ayton for Nurk + filler (Little isn't even the worst filler he has potential if he can stay healthy), the Hawks get a second star to go alongside Trey hopefully keeping him happy, Toronto gets Dame to put next to Barnes, OG, Poetl, and Boucher, Young and other roleplayer vets without giving up Barnes. I think this works for all teams and also might I add, FUCK MIAMI!


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    Good creativity - I like the idea.

    Only thing I don't get is Toronto side, now I can see them wanting to trade away Siakam, but then why acquire Dame?

    Seems like if they are going to win now with Dame they keep Siakam.

    If they want to trade Siakam they aren't going to want to win now with Dame.

    Also don't see Masai believing the upgrade from Siakam to Dame is worth 2 picks and Dick.
     
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    I was on a Toronto fan page and someone pointed this possibility out of trading Siakam to Atlanta and Portland getting youth and picks from both teams and Toronto getting Dame to try and win nowish. They have to trade one of their forwards for cap reasons in the next year or two. They all say they are desperate for offense and they like the idea of Dame, but not gutting their roster and especially not giving up Barnes. It seems all indications are that they are willing to move on from Siakam, but have zero intention of letting Barnes go. Might need to get a 3rd pick from Atlanta and just one from Toronto. I feel like the overall frame works, but the Devil is in the details of course. It seems Toronto fan base is enamored of Barnes, but is willing to trade Siakam. Obviously I would prefer just trading direct for Barnes.
     
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    I’m pretty sure the Hawks are looking to get rid of Capela to open up more playing time for Okungwu because they are very high on him.

    That’s also a whole lot for Siakam, no way they even consider that. I think they would consider Hunter, Capela (routed to PHX), and the 2 1sts.

    I’m not exactly sure why we would rather have Dick than Koloko or Achiuwa. Minimum ask should be Siakam, Koloko, and the 2 1sts for Dame.

    So overall, our return for Dame and Little would be Ayton, Hunter, Koloko, and 4 1sts. That package would be leaps and bounds better than MIA.
     
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    Hmm, that's really interesting. I don't know rosters as well as many, I just liked the novel idea of Raps + ATL + PHX + Fuck Miami as our trade partners.
     
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    If Raptors would consider Herro for OG (+ Thad young for contracts), I would try to swap Simons for OG.

    Maybe include PHX & Ayton

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    DA and OG is a solid pair imho
     
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    Dude, that's a solid team/starting lineup...
    Scoot
    Sharpe
    OG
    Grant
    Ayton
     
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    The best part is Miami loses. That's easily the best part.
     
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    Word is that the Siakam deal didn't happen because the Hawks wouldn't give up Bufkin.
     
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    The issue with getting OG is how much he is going to want next summer. Ugh!!
     
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    Good players get paid. If you want to be a good team you need to pay good players.
     
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    I've always held firm that its better for the Blazers to get picks or different players than OG.

    But if the Blazers are insisting on trying to win soon as some report, I don't hate the idea of getting OG and Ayton here;

    Scoot Ant
    Sharpe Thybulle
    OG NAS
    Grant Murray
    Ayton Reath

    Has the most talent throughout all 5 starting spots since the LMA teams. Has basically the whole roster in their early to mid 20's.

    Very concerned it might not work, but if the only downside is losing 2 Miami picks and not having the shitty defense of Jovic as a backup I think I may just be able to live with it.

    Would love to drink the tears of Miami fans/media for months if this happens.
     
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    That and his injuries. He will get a raise for sure, probably Ayton money.
    Who would we rather have? Ayton is one year younger, less injuries, and is locked in for 3 seasons.
    Both fill different needs. OG is a very good wing defender
     
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