No Bush for Texans?

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  1. bobferg

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    NFL Network's Adam Shefter reports there are "legitimate reasons" to believe the Texans will not draft Reggie Bush with the first pick of the NFL Draft.Shefter cites multiple sources from inside and outside of Reggie Bush's camp that the Texans are more likely to draft Mario Williams or trade down. The Texans haven't approached Bush about a possible contract and key members of the organization didn't meet Bush when he was in town. This could be your typical pre-draft smokescreen, but Shefter was adamant this wasn't the case. Need-wise, it makes plenty of sense~Rotoworld.comI used to agree with saying that they don't need another runningback becuase davis is a DAMN good back........But after watching bush's interviews and game film again I am just so impressed with him. WHo knows......
     
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    Reggie Bush is a great athlete and talent, but so is Mario Williams at Defensive End....most people would call them stupid if they made that move but I think It would actually be a pretty smart move. However, the move I think the Texans should make though is to put themselves in a position to take D'Brickashaw Ferguson or do it at #1
     
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    Then the Texans wont be any good if they don't draft Reggie Bush :glare:
     
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    I still think they'll get Bush. Last year the 49ers were agreeing on contracts with players like Braylon Edwards etc.. but they still ended up drafting Alex Smith. If the texans don't get Bush, this draft is gonna be crazy.
     
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    I've been saying all along that them drafting Bush was stupid. They already have a top 10 RB who gets them 1000 yards and 8 TD's. What's the improvement? 300 yards and 3 TD's? Is that worth the 1st overall pick?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Apr 18 2006, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I've been saying all along that them drafting Bush was stupid. They already have a top 10 RB who gets them 1000 yards and 8 TD's. What's the improvement? 300 yards and 3 TD's? Is that worth the 1st overall pick?</div>While I agree that Runningback isnt their biggest need, Dominick Davis is not a top 10 Runningback in this league.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Apr 18 2006, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Apr 18 2006, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I've been saying all along that them drafting Bush was stupid. They already have a top 10 RB who gets them 1000 yards and 8 TD's. What's the improvement? 300 yards and 3 TD's? Is that worth the 1st overall pick?</div>While I agree that Runningback isnt their biggest need, Dominick Davis is not a top 10 Runningback in this league.</div>Of course he is. 10 RB's in the NFL couldn't have done what he has behind that line.
     
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    Bush = FREAK.He will probably be the best back in the league once he proves his endurance and just develops a bit more power. He's fast, no one can make people miss like him since Barry Sanders, he's got a good head, he can catch very well for a RB. He can do almost everything himself. He can even pass the ball!While I know Davis is a scat-back type player, he's not close to the league of Reggie Bush.While Mario Williams is an exceptional athlete and pass rusher, Tony Weaver is a fine enough addition paired with former 1st rounder Travis Johnson.D'Brickashaw Ferguson is only one man. He can't single handedly prevent 60-65+ blocks from happening again this season. If the Texans do trade down, they should settle for no worse than a better package than the Eli Manning-Phillip Rivers package the Chargers got.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Apr 18 2006, 01:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>no one can make people miss like him since Barry Sanders</div>Whoa there buddy, lets see how he does playing in the NFL before making statements like that. I haven't seen him make anyone miss in an NFL game yet, much less look like Sanders.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>While I know Davis is a scat-back type player, he's not close to the league of Reggie Bush.</div>Two things here:1. Lets see how Bush does in the pros before we make statements like that.2. No one said Davis was as good as Bush is expected to be. I simply said that the upgrade over Davis wasn't big enough. Davis averages 1278 yards and 11 TD's per 16 game's, and he does it behind the worst O-line in football.Let's just say, for the sake of argument, that Reggie Bush Averages 1600 yards and 15 TD's per 16 games. Is the 322 yard and 4 TD bump worth the <u>1st</u> overall pick???
     
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    considering the fact that the Texans lost by 7 or less in 6 games... yeah, those 4 extra touchdowns could have made a difference.btw Dominick Davis had 976 yards last season and has never rushed for more than 1200
     
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    Bush went against a lot easier defenses. I've been a DD fan since he was at LSU. I think he can compete and be a top back in this league, and like Vilma said..he's done so good behind the worse offensive line in the NFL! Bush played behind one of the best offensive lines in the NCAA.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>btw Dominick Davis had 976 yards last season and has never rushed for more than 1200</div>It's per 16 games. He didn't play all 16 in his rookie season (if i remember correctly). And he was hurt last season, so he didn't play all 16.
     
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    ok per 16 last year... he would have rushed for over 1400 but with a whopping 3 TDs and on 340 carries.That's basically what Warrick Dunn did except Dunn did it more efficiently with 280 carries. For a guy thats 30+ pounds heavier, he should have gotten more than 3 TDs.Yards are great but TDs count on the scoreboard.Now I gotta say, Reggie Bush did do it behind a better line but 8.6 ypc is not just the line.
     
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    [quote name='chang' post='41601' date='Apr 18 2006, 02:50 PM']considering the fact that the Texans lost by 7 or less in 6 games... yeah, those 4 extra touchdowns could have made a difference.btw Dominick Davis had 976 yards last season and has never rushed for more than 1200[/quote]I said per 16 games, he only played 11 last season.40 games3195 yards (4471 total)23 TD's (28 total)per 16 games = 1278 Yards (1788 Total)9 TD's (11 Total)Is Reggie Bush going to average a composite greater than 1788 yards per 16 games? a la Marshall Faulk? If so is it really worth the 1st overall pick?I'm going by "per 16 games" because Davis' health isn't a guarantee, but that's also the main question on Reggie Bush. It's: Can he stay healthy?[quote name='chang' post='41616' date='Apr 18 2006, 03:15 PM']ok per 16 last year... he would have rushed for over 1400 but with a whopping 3 TDs and on 340 carries.And 490 recieving yards. 1420 Rushing Yards + 490 Recieving Yards = 1910 Total Yards.48 yards less than Shaun Alexander55 yards less than Edgerrin James.Those two had two of the best O-line's in Football, whereas Davis was working behind the <u>WORST</u> in the NFL!And you're trying to tell me he's not top 10?[quote name='chang' post='41616' date='Apr 18 2006, 03:15 PM']Now I gotta say, Reggie Bush did do it behind a better line but 8.6 ypc is not just the line.[/quote]You're right, it's called college.
     
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    When was Bush injury prone in college? Durability could be an issue but it's only cause he didn't play every down at RB. He played a slot WR in a sense in college. Davis' career has been injury rattled. He never finished 1 season.Bush only had a minor surgery on his shoulder that he returned and became the Heisman winner.About Davis, the season he had 13 TDs, 11 of those came in 8 games. Meaning the other 7-6 games, he only had 2 TDs. Just like last season, if he played every season, he would have only scored 3 TDs. He's not consistant. He'll get you yardage but if you want scores, what really counts during a game, Davis isn't the man.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Apr 18 2006, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When was Bush injury prone in college? Durability could be an issue but it's only cause he didn't play every down at RB. He played a slot WR in a sense in college. Davis' career has been injury rattled. He never finished 1 season.Bush only had a minor surgery on his shoulder that he returned and became the Heisman winner.About Davis, the season he had 13 TDs, 11 of those came in 8 games. Meaning the other 7-6 games, he only had 2 TDs. Just like last season, if he played every season, he would have only scored 3 TDs. He's not consistant. He'll get you yardage but if you want scores, what really counts during a game, Davis isn't the man.</div>Davis was the only weapon last year as there was no passing game. I'll love seeing Reggie Bush dealing with 9 in the box with the worst O-line in football blocking for him on the very rare occasions that he actually gets into the Red zone and seeing how many TD's he gets.
     
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    If I were the Texans, I'd trade down for a defensive player like Mario Williams.
     

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