How disappointed do you think you're going to be by what we get for Dame?

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How disappointed?

  1. Not at all because we're going to get an EPIC HAUL

    1 vote(s)
    3.7%

  2. Not at all because I have given up all expectations and one second rounder would be fine

    1 vote(s)
    3.7%

  3. I expect something near the best offer we've heard about from Miami

    11 vote(s)
    40.7%

  4. I expect about three picks and a couple of rookies

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    29.6%

  5. Nothing will make up for the loss of Dame

    4 vote(s)
    14.8%

  6. I've convinced myself Dame isn't leaving, so I'm going to be unconsolable

    2 vote(s)
    7.4%
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  1. SharpeScooterShooter

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    Where is the poll choice:
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    SharpeScooterShooter, Sep 22, 2023
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    It's Zion or bust for me
     
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    I will calculate the Nurkic bit separately from the Dame trade.
     
    Samuel, Sep 22, 2023
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    Hoopguru, Sep 22, 2023
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    Same. If Dame goes to literally any team other than Miami for basically any package, I will accept it. What I don't want is Dame going to Miami for any package other than the ultra-mega-giga max trade and even then I hate it and would prefer a lesser package with another team because I take the long view - I REALLY don't understand how people don't get this - and it means THE LEAGUE IS DONE. It's literally done except for 7 teams because you have to win with Rookie superstars which is exceedingly rare to the point of it basically never happens.

    Why? Because everyone will use the Dame formula from here on out. Consider, Dame made an entire marketing campaign and persona around undying loyalty, and he is doing this. Imagine you draft the next AD, or Lebron. Wow that's lucky! You might win a chip right? Well you got 4 years and then, no, they are gone. So unless you have a team that is one piece away somehow and THEN you draft a generational talent, you have ZERO chance of winning a championship if you aren't among the lucky 7 or so teams that are desirable.

    So again, I would trade Dame for a significantly lower package just to avoid this. I will be happy with any trade where he goes to a team OTHER than Miami. Any trade with Miami is the toll of doom for this franchise especially, and about 22 other franchises as well.
     
    Idog1976, Sep 22, 2023
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    If we get a couple three first round picks, an upgrade at center and c couple young guys with upside all while dumping bad salaries, an injury prone guy and a player that does not want to be here, I am fine with that.
     
    DaLincolnJones, Sep 22, 2023
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    We trade Dame for a bad package them Miami turns around and trades him a year later for a much better haul.
     
    Hoopguru, Sep 22, 2023
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    Cronin goes into big trades in scatter formation. If the Lillard trade goes through, I expect about 4 players nobody's heard of to be Blazers for a day, and 7 draft picks of various calibration.

    Every little bit of draft help will be needed moving forward through cap space and flexibility. This will be Portland's 3rd season of rebuild. Picks picks picks.
     
    Whyachi, Sep 22, 2023
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    We aren't going to get fair value in return. It is what it is. And that's not Cronin's fault.
     
    BBert, Sep 22, 2023
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    As long as Scoot stays, I will be fine and so will the Blazers.
     
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    No, it's never his fault. He has immunity from criticism because he's not Olshey and he is nice to reporters and co-workers.
     
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    You're gonna be fun when the trade happens lol
     
    Strenuus, Sep 22, 2023
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    My expectations are super low for Cronin. He hasn't made a good move other than getting Grant, which Dame gift wrapped him.
     
    AmirIcon, Sep 22, 2023
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    Wait you think we will get 7 draft picks? Are 4 of those 2nds? Any scenario where we land SEVEN FRP's for Dame is a win, even if that's a trade to Miami somehow, which I'm pretty adamantly opposed to btw.
     
    Idog1976, Sep 22, 2023
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    Until his rookie contract runs out if Dame goes to Miami and then he is GONE. Y'all DO see that right? That if Dame gets his way this league is toast? More toast if you're already a cynic.
     
    Idog1976, Sep 22, 2023
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    Is Cronin supposed to hold other GMs at gunpoint and force them to give up their best players and picks for Dame? As far as I'm concerned, Les Jeux sont Fait, and Dame is no longer part of the team. Cronin is holding out for the best deal he can get. What else is he supposed to do.
     
    BBert, Sep 22, 2023
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    Like he did with CJ and Norm. Oh, wait...
     
    AmirIcon, Sep 22, 2023
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    If we come out of the Dame trade with a few first round picks and a starting quality young center and a SF or PF I'll be happy.
     
    riverman, Sep 22, 2023
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    Natebishop3, Sep 22, 2023
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    He wasn't forced to trade CJ and Norm. Those were decisions, possibly bad ones depending on one's perspective. Portland is not in the driver's seat here. IMO, our hand is being forced, we'll take the best package we can get, and like it. I do understand though if what you are saying is that, if Cronin is offered three different deals, you have no faith in him selecting the best one. That I get.

    :cheers:
     
    BBert, Sep 22, 2023
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