Toronto Raptors Dame trade ideas and rumors

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  1. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    And the core is 6 and 7 years younger than him respectively.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Yep. I don't think he'd have to be that here.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    I'd rather have a Jovic and Jaquez then Gradey Dick. Albeit I don't like Gradey as a prospect. Jovic clears the gap between Jaquez and him.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Yeah but that’s fine. You don’t want the whole team to be 20 years old or you end up like the rockets.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Which is good. You need some experience. The Spurs always had older guys. So did the Warriors.
     
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    Samuel James “Hollywood” Robinson

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    never go full rockets.
     
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  7. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Perfect.

    A vet entering his prime to show the youngins how to play pro ball.

    You seem to want to replicate the fiasco in Houston. My vision for our rebuild is different.
     
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    Samuel James “Hollywood” Robinson

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    that's fair. I wish I could get there with either of them.
     
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    The problem is, there isn't much of a window to contention (if theres any at all) before Scoot and Sharpe are paid. There window is what we should be focused on.

    So before our core is ready to lead a contender, we're paying high dollar signs to these guys instead of maximizing our draft picks. How does that maximize the chances to win a championship with Scoot and Sharpe?

    Because if those guys are "dwindling" by the time that core is ready, why should we value them at all? Having 3 or 4 young up-and-coming stars isn't worse than that because they're on the same timeline, it's better. And you can always trade one of them for depth (which should return more than trading Ayton/OG down the line). Plus we'd have more assets for that window. We'd have enough flexibility and power to build the team however we wanted around a core of more than one star player.
     
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    CJ_is_Gone Well-Known Member

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    Why do you think Im biased? Where/why do you think Im wrong here?

    Both Dick & Jaquez should be better than Murray.

    Or is it just that I don't see Jovic being able to become a good rotation player?
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    That's a lot of money and risk to take on for a veteran mentor.

    I don't want to replicate Houston. They have no leadership and have problems in the locker room. Scoots a better leader than anyone in their locker room. Overpaying for Brooks and VanVleet was an awful decision too. Don't know where you're getting that from.
     
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    The whole team doesn't have to be 20 year olds in order to maximize a window 4-7 years down the line.
     
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    No, the core is Grant, Thybulle Ant and for now Nurk wwith Sharpe and Scoot being the young guys. Even Murray is Ant's age..I think Reath is Grant's age too...Moses Brown is not a teen anymore either. We're young but our vets are 24-29
     
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    Disagree.

    First, I don't believe OG would be a rental. I think he'll resign with whomever trades for him. I anticipate his contract to be similar to what Grant is being paid. Between OG or Grant (on the same contracts) I'd 100% pick OG.

    Second, I don't believe that it is good for the development of the team to go with all rookies/young players. The team needs good veteran players moreso than additional rookies or draft picks. Building good HABITS ARE IMPORTANT.

    Third, Portland always has the opportunity to trade the players who don't fit later in the season.
     
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    Golden State took multiple years developing their core and both teams had top 25 players of all time. If we had a championship core that we were adding Scoot too (like Tim Duncan did) then sure, but we don't. This team is not positioned to win a championship anytime soon and when they are, they can add veterans.

    Also, the vets on both of those teams weren't being paid max contracts. They were role guys, which should be really easy to add with a boatload of assets.
     
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    As long as we get the talent in we should be able to pay them.

    If paying them is a problem then we don't have a chance anyway.
     
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    Samuel James “Hollywood” Robinson

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    that's one of those mouth-foamy heat podcast guys as the source.
     
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    “We have advised agent Aaron Goodwin and Lillard that any future comments, made privately to teams or publicly, suggesting Lillard will not fully perform the services called for under his player contract in the event of a trade will subject Lillard to discipline by the NBA. We also have advised the Players Association that any similar comments by players or their agents will be subject to discipline going forward.” - NBA Commissioner Adolf Silver
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    God I’m tired of aggregators. It’s just a million scrubs rehashing something that a real journalist reported as their own.
     
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