Toronto Raptors Dame trade ideas and rumors

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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    It was floated yesterday but the Indy deal with PHX/TOR makes a ton of sense.

    We get Ayton + Dick + 2 firsts from Indy + 2 firsts from TOR.

    TOR gets Dame and Buddy.

    Indy gets OG and Trent.

    PHX gets Nurk, McConnell, and Thad.
     
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    Solid point.
     
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    I kind of wish you'd stop posting shit from Miami talking heads
     
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    Take it one step at a time like Denver did. Barely miss playoffs then lose in second round, then lose in WCF, then Finals. We don’t have to go from lottery to champions. And we had the 3rd seed twice with Dame. 3 seed is contending.
     
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    Too much money coming to Indy in that. Who else do they include?
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Something like this? I would really want Walker from Indy so we can move Grant at the deadline.

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    depending on protections and when those picks are, that's really not bad. Does the trade work in the CBA I'd wonder?
     
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    They would send us Theis as well. Didn't feel he was important enough to mention
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Check out my trade. His proposal doesn't quite work because of how much money is going to Indy so I had to move Theis as well.
     
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    Ya we'd have to absorb Theis at 9 mil for next two yrs.
     
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    In my book Ayton and Nurk aren't that far apart and almost cancel each other out. So for Damian Lillard we get Dick/picks (see what I did there)? Fuck that. I'd rather just keep him at that point.
     
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    I don't know the salaries well enough (but assume that you do) to know if that works for Phoenix, and I could see Indiana only throwing in a single pick if they are also giving up Hield and O'Connell, but I would still do it from Portland's perspective. Heck, I'd argue it's a touch too good for Toronto as I like Hield a lot more than Trent (but that may be the only way Masai pulls the trigger). But for Portland, Ayton, Dick, and three future picks from teams that aren't free agent destinations works for me.
     
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    Yep. Did Brooklyn “contend” with KD and Kyrie? They only won one playoff series together but they were considered the favorites for a couple years there.
     
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    I would almost prefer OG than Ayton. I know DA could really blossom into what he was supposed to be but this team doesn't need a guy with a personality problem.
     
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    I would think of OG as the best non- Dame player in that deal. Hence the 2 picks.
     
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    Is that guy for real? Lowry and Dame aren’t remotely on the same level and he acts like Lowry is better.
     
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    I'm not sure if I'd rather immediately flip him, or wait and see how he does with the team before trading him at the deadline?
     
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    Most of what comes out of Miami is so incredibly biased and devoid of reality, it's not worth posting. I find the media in Toronto much more realistic and open minded.
     
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    LeBatard is the worst, too.

    I still remember him during Ricky Williams' first retirement. He tried to play it into a Ricky Williams-hated-Dave Wannstedt angle, then, every time some new info came out that eroded that, he moved his reason to something out. He ended up saying Williams quit because he wanted to spend more time with his kid, which got torpedoed when it turned out Williams actually had moved by himself to Tibet and had been there for a couple of months smoking weed.

    That LeBatard actually somehow fell upward professionally after this just goes to show the state of current sports journalism.
     
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    I was curious so I made a comparison of them. Started with Nurkic's 1st year as a starter an Portland:

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    they are close to even in PER; Ayton is a more efficient shooter, mainly because of Nurk's poor shooting at the rim. Nurkic is a better rebounder and passer. And he's a better defender. Ayton has better winshare numbers but he's played on teams that have generated a lot more wins so that skew is evident. Nurkic has a better impact if you gauge by BPM

    personally, I think Ayton has become pretty overrated in this forum. He may have more baggage than Nurkic and he costs twice as much
     
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