Malcolm Brogdon trade ideas

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  1. AquaXI

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    He proves it and we get more later!
     
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    Hadn't thought of them, yes Brogdon and Williams could both make a lot of sense there. They have more than enough elite young talent and elite picks, might need a couple good vets. If we could get two more FRP for both guys the Dame haul gets to 5 FRP and two swaps.... wow
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    KPJ has negative value right now. We have the luxury of taking his deal, never putting him on a plane to Portland, and taking extra assets back in the process..
     
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    Agreed. At this point, they have taken so many future picks, the value of those picks to OKC is actually reduced as they don't have roster spots for all of them. It could be a nice opportunity to move them to a team on a different competitive timeline than us.
     
  7. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I would frankly trade both Brogdon and Williams.
     
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    With such a young roster and so many years of expected lottery trips projected ahead for our Blazers; re-acquiring our pick from Chicago might actually have a fairly low cost right now. It might look very possible to Chicago that the pick only has the value of a very poor 1st rounder or good 2nd rounder. More and more I like the idea of pushing to acquire this now while the cost is low. Even if we are in the lottery for most of these years getting it back unlocks our future picks if we eventually want to pivot to a win now move. It also fully enables the 2028 swap with Milwaukee.

    Who knows - if we make a good run next year and get close to the playin, or add a good veteran next summer along with growth of our youth it might become much much more expensive to get that pick back in 12 months.

    I don't see any way Chicago would give up Patrick Williams for Brogdon. However they are very committed to winning now as evident by giving Vucevic an extension, an aging DeRozen, and obviously have a massive hole at PG. I'd be very happy with this type of deal;

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    Gets the Dame haul up to Ayton, Williams - 5 FRP and two swaps!
     
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    if you assume good health, as it is right now Brogdon is probably Portland's best guard; the guard with the most established 2-way ability. He's easily the most versatile, can play PG or SG, and has fairly high level 3&D credentials.

    But as a Blazer fan, I know that assuming good health for a player who has had very little good health in his career is a fool's errand. Brogdon and Robert Williams are both injury magnets. I think Williams is worth the risk because the payoff could be high and 12M/year is about an MLE contract; and at 26 he mostly fits the apparent timeline. And of course, we've been conditioned to see Blazer bigs sitting behind the bench in street clothes

    Brogdon? He'll turn 31 in December, so he doesn't really fit any longer-term timeline. And his weight isn't enough to offset the reality he under 6'4 w/o shoes....so he'd just be another in a long line of significantly undersized SF's Portland settles for

    all that means he's a fine player....as in we should be fine with Portland keeping him for a while, especially if the minutes he takes is from Ant & Thybulle. And we should be fine with Portland trading him for a marginal SF and 2nd round picks. Yeah, a 1st would be better, but I'm not sure he has that value right now
     
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    Trade them for a small forward that's not small.
     
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    I don't know what William's health status is. If he'll never be able to play center full time, yes, it would be good to trade him. Unless he'll be happy with making a backup centers wage which isn't much these days.
     
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    I'd trade both Brogdon and Ant, not much upside with either, IMO. The upside potential of Williams is high but the chances his health permits that upside might be pretty low. Meaning trading him depends on getting a really good return. If you can't get it, keep him and roll the dice
     
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    I'd try to send Williams to Dallas.
     
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    bring him in, have him put together a stretch of 21-22 ball, then move him later if someone offers 2 picks.

    he didnt look the same last year.
     
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    I think at this juncture Cronin is probably holding onto Brogdon/Williams/Grant and maybe even Simons to see what deals are there at the deadline.
     
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    for what? (and don't say lively)
     
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    *whispers*

    Lively
     
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    Brogdon listed on the training camp roster, so likely no imminent trade
     
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    Joe just said he wants him to be a part of this. He sounds happy to have him. So I don't know.
     
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    he does give Cronin options. All the 'Ant-is-our-star' chatter aside, if Cronin does decide to shop Ant, having a healthy Brogdon leaves a better 6th man in place. And Brogdon takes the pressure off for having a backup PG. A healthy Brogdon would be Portland's best guard, at least he would be at the start of the season. He also might be a steadying influence for the young guards, and a template for how to play defense...and a security blanket for Chauncey
     
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