Trade target once the Blazers core develops?

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  1. RonBrewer

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    Dame Dolla for theee future 2nds and cash consideration
     
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    Scottie Barnes?
     
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    Actually one potential huge benefit of the Blazers owning 3 completely unprotected years of Bucks picks is the bargaining position the Blazers could be in if the Bucks do decide to trade Lillard and the Blazers are interested in making an offer.

    Look at how many dozens if not hundreds of proposals we've had of re-acquiring our pick from Chicago. That is a pick that is guaranteed to be #15 or worse. Imagine how desperate we would be to get it back if it could be a lottery pick and even #1 overall?

    Might be able to trade back for Dame for a single swap or something in a few years if we ever got to the point that makes sense.
     
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    Was one of the players I was most interested in for Dame.

    But sounds like Masai is just a ridiculous trade negotiator to the point it's almost worthless even attempting to trade with him. Now he did kind of give up too much to the Spurs for Poetl, so perhaps its ok to sell him something, but I'm not sure you want to ever try and buy anything from him.

    Feel like he might demand Scoot, Sharpe, 4 unprotected picks, and something else for Barnes.
     
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    Clowney and Whitehead. Deal Ant for them and filler.
     
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    Develop this team.
     
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    team won't develop for 2-3 years when Barnes might become a FA.
     
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    Too hard of a question to ask. Right now, our “targets” should be cheap fliers on guys that might become long term fits. This is where Schmitz is going to be heavily relied upon to go though old notes on young guys who are on a team that don’t fit their timeline.

    One guy I’d love to take a flier on is Ziaire Williams. Combine measurements: 6’8.25 barefoot (6’9.75 in shoes), 8’10.5 standing reach, 188lbs, 6’10.25 wingspan. Great measurements for a SF, great looking shot but still very raw. Clearly stuck on a team that had a rapid rebuild. I don’t think he’s going to cost a 1st to get him at the deadline, probably a couple 2nds. He’s a great “target” for where we are in our rebuild.

    Let’s see what Scoot and Shae become before actually coming up with targets like potential AS targets. Guys like Doncic don’t fit our team, guys like Ingram/OG don’t fit our timeline. The only guys who I think are be in that target category of who could become stars are Jalen Williams, Scottie, Trey Murphy, Mobley, Franz.

    Right now, I’d be just dandy stacking up our picks, letting Scoot and Shae get a season or two to develop, and building an actually-sustainable offensive and defensive system. THEN, we can talk about making all-in moves.
     
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    He’ll be 36 or something by the time his contract is over. If Dame comes back (and I REALLY want him to one day), I hope it happens once Dame is no longer a star and he is willing to take the MLE or at the very least, not star-level money. I’m not trading one of their swaps for Dame back. Our situation and their situation are totally different. They’re pretty much screwed for their future. Their goal is to maximize their present to compensate for their crappy future.
     
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    Yeah, I love Doncic and when we were trading Dame I had a fantasy about replacing him with Doncic somehow, but with Scoot on board I don't like him as a target. We need to be looking at guys like Mikal Bridges, Scottie Barnes (YES PLEASE!!!), Jeremy Sochan, Tari Eason, one of the Thompson twins maybe, guys like that. Young wings who look like they are two way players with the emphasis being on defense at the wing. I am also wanting low usage, low but efficient scoring, and hopefully a good three ball. I recognize Barnes is currently suspect at the 3 and Sochan and Eason have even less of a resume. I'm just pointing to the prototype of what we should be looking for. I also am interested in PF's who can hit the midrange and 3-ball and defend and rebound like crazy, like a young Al Horford. I'm not sure any of these guys will be available in even the medium term, but that's the template of guys I want. I still see Sharpe as a SG best paired with Scoot in the back court. I also see Simons, Grant, Brogdon, and even Timelord as trade chips and not longer term members of the team unless Simons is willing to come of the bench Vinnie "the Microwave" Johnson style.
     
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    Well, unless they win a chip in the next 5ish years, Barnes will be one of those guys who requests a trade if he doesn’t take the supermax deal.

    So it’s doesn’t really matter what Masai thinks, he’ll probably be gone before we get to that point.
     
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    I believe wholeheartedly he will be a Blazer again someday.
     
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    I’d target Simmons.
     
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    I don’t know. I thought that would be the problem with Harden & CP3 and they went 65-17. Having more than 1 great player who can handle the ball is a good thing it turns out.
     
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    Dame does too apparently.
     
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    Hmm. Doncic being harden and scoot cp3? good point. Didn't they get exposed and ousted early in the playoffs though? I don't recall.
     
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    No. They were up 3-2 on the Warriors in the WCF before a CP3 injury.
     
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    And they needed to hit just a bit more than 1-24 threes or w/e it was and they also advance. That Rockets team was good.
     

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