<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Reports say Nash earns NBA MVP awardESPN.com news servicesPHOENIX -- Steve Nash will win his second straight NBA Most Valuable Player award, according to reports on several area newspapers.The announcement may not come for two weeks, according to the Arizona Republic. But the paper, and others, report that the voting shows Nash edging LeBron James, Dirk Nowitzki, Chauncey Billups and Kobe Bryant for the MVP.This season, Nash had career-highs in points (18.8 points per game), rebounds (4.2 per game), field goal percentage (51.2 percent) and free throw percentage (92.1 percent -- best in the league). He was also the league-leader in assists (10.5) and shot nearly 50 percent from three-point range.The Suns are currently playing the Los Angeles Lakers in the first round of the Western Conference playoffs.A year ago, Nash edged Shaquille O'Neal in what was the fourth-closest balloting in history.</div>http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2422255
Well, deserved. He made a team that everyone thought wasn't a playoff contender to a 50+ win team which is very impressive. If you didn't know, they did not have Amare, Joe Johnson, or Q-Rich. That was just amazing what Steve Nash was able to do because he has so much talents and he can make you better.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Apr 26 2006, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fucking racism.</div>LMAO. He made a group of nobodies into a 3 seed I believe. No Amare, No Q, No JJ, no KT40, ETC. Boris Diaw and Eddie House were getting rejected by teams before they even joined the suns. Give Props to Nash because he had career highs in alot of categories.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz52 @ Apr 26 2006, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Apr 26 2006, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fucking racism.</div>LMAO. He made a group of nobodies into a 3 seed I believe. No Amare, No Q, No JJ, no KT40, ETC. Boris Diaw and Eddie House were getting rejected by teams before they even joined the suns. Give Props to Nash because he had career highs in alot of categories.</div>And all he had to work with was a top 5 player in all of basketball.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Apr 26 2006, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz52 @ Apr 26 2006, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Apr 26 2006, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fucking racism.</div>LMAO. He made a group of nobodies into a 3 seed I believe. No Amare, No Q, No JJ, no KT40, ETC. Boris Diaw and Eddie House were getting rejected by teams before they even joined the suns. Give Props to Nash because he had career highs in alot of categories.</div>And all he had to work with was a top 5 player in all of basketball.</div>Amare only played like 5 games man.
[quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='43498' date='Apr 26 2006, 02:46 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='43489' date='Apr 26 2006, 01:16 PM'][quote name='GotSkillz52' post='43474' date='Apr 26 2006, 12:52 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='43411' date='Apr 26 2006, 11:57 AM']Fucking racism.[/quote]LMAO. He made a group of nobodies into a 3 seed I believe. No Amare, No Q, No JJ, no KT40, ETC. Boris Diaw and Eddie House were getting rejected by teams before they even joined the suns. Give Props to Nash because he had career highs in alot of categories.[/quote]And all he had to work with was a top 5 player in all of basketball.[/quote]Amare only played like 5 games man. [/quote]I'm talking about fucking Shawn Marion. One of only 4 20-10 guys in all of basketball. And he's been doing it year after year.
Marion is definately underrated man, but to say hes a top 5 player in the entire league is a major reach.....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Apr 26 2006, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Marion is definately underrated man, but to say hes a top 5 player in the entire league is a major reach.....</div>He's one of only 4 players to be a 20-10 guy this year. He's 13th in Points, 3rd in rebounds, 3rd in steals, 12th in blocks.He's pretty much the best all around player in the NBA. He's not the best scorer, not the best defender, not the best rebounder. But a strong case can be made for him to be the best player in the NBA, and he is most definitely top 5.
Marion was his only weapon. The other candidates have a lot more around them then Nash does. Marion is def top 5. I agree he's versatile but he doesnt exceed them like the top 5 players do.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz52 @ Apr 26 2006, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Marion was his only weapon. The other candidates have a lot more around them then Nash does. Marion is def top 5. I agree he's versatile but he doesnt exceed them like the top 5 players do.</div>Name 5 other players with a higher average ranking in 4 different catagories in the NBA.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ThaFranchize @ Apr 26 2006, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>^ I can't believe you said the other players have more around them... Kobe has nobody...</div>And I'm sure Nash had TONS to do with Diaws blocked shots and rebounds. Which is what his biggest contribution was.
Kobe 35.4 ppg 5.3 rpg 4.5 apg 1.84 spgWade 27.2 ppg 5.7 rpg 6.7 apg 1.95 spgLeBron 31.4 7 rpg 6.6 apg 1.56 spg .84 bpgT-Mac 24.4 ppg 6.4 rpg 4.8 apg 1.26 spg .87 bpg in a off-seasonKG 21.8 ppg 12.7 rpg 4.1 apg 1.37 spg 1.41 bpgPaul Pierce 26.8 ppg 6.7 rpg 4.7 apg 1.35 spgAI 33 ppg 7.4 apg 1.94 spgArenas 29.3 ppg 3.5 rpg 6.1 apg 2.01 spgVC 24.2 ppg 5.8 rpg 4.3 apg 1.19 spgMarion got to play PF all season. While LeBron, Pierce, T-Mac aren't as strong as Marion, you could make a case that at PF, they would rebound just as much. Wade, T-Mac, LeBron, Pierce, KG all average above 20-5-5-1.If I could make a list of the top 10...1) LeBron2) Kobe3) Nash4) Wade5) T-Mac6) KG7) Pierce8) Arenas9) VC10) AIMarion would crack top 15 though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Apr 26 2006, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe 35.4 ppg 5.3 rpg 4.5 apg 1.84 spgWade 27.2 ppg 5.7 rpg 6.7 apg 1.95 spgLeBron 31.4 7 rpg 6.6 apg 1.56 spg .84 bpgT-Mac 24.4 ppg 6.4 rpg 4.8 apg 1.26 spg .87 bpg in a off-seasonKG 21.8 ppg 12.7 rpg 4.1 apg 1.37 spg 1.41 bpgPaul Pierce 26.8 ppg 6.7 rpg 4.7 apg 1.35 spgAI 33 ppg 7.4 apg 1.94 spgArenas 29.3 ppg 3.5 rpg 6.1 apg 2.01 spgVC 24.2 ppg 5.8 rpg 4.3 apg 1.19 spgMarion got to play PF all season. While LeBron, Pierce, T-Mac aren't as strong as Marion, you could make a case that at PF, they would rebound just as much. Wade, T-Mac, LeBron, Pierce, KG all average above 20-5-5-1.If I could make a list of the top 10...1) LeBron2) Kobe3) Nash4) Wade5) T-Mac6) KG7) Pierce8) Arenas9) VC10) AIMarion would crack top 15 though.</div>Ranks?And btw, you saying they aren't as strong as Marion only boosts him. You realize that right?
You didn't finish that sentance."While LeBron, Pierce, T-Mac aren't as strong as Marion, you could make a case that at PF, they would rebound just as much."It's the positioning of a PF not the strength that really matters. LeBron and T-Mac can make up for the minor decrease in strength with their jumping ability and speed. Pierce I would say is only a few steps behind in strength. Plus they don't have fucked up looking jumpshots.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Apr 27 2006, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You didn't finish that sentance."While LeBron, Pierce, T-Mac aren't as strong as Marion, you could make a case that at PF, they would rebound just as much."It's the positioning of a PF not the strength that really matters. LeBron and T-Mac can make up for the minor decrease in strength with their jumping ability and speed. Pierce I would say is only a few steps behind in strength. Plus they don't have fucked up looking jumpshots.</div>It doesn't matter how it looks, as long as it goes in. And it goes in more often then T-Mac and Lebron, who you love so much.The reason you can't find 5 players with a better average rank, is that there AREN'T 5 players with a higher average rank. Marion is the best all around player in the NBA, and if you look into history, he doesn't need to Nash to be that either.
Marion had the benefit of Kidd in the beginning of his career and Stephon Marbury in the middle of his career. Those were years that Kidd averaged 9.5+ assists and Marbury 8+ assists.He's had dishers all his life in the NBA...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Apr 27 2006, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Marion had the benefit of Kidd in the beginning of his career and Stephon Marbury in the middle of his career. Those were years that Kidd averaged 9.5+ assists and Marbury 8+ assists.He's had dishers all his life in the NBA...</div>So... your argument is that Nash is just as good as Kidd and Marbury, got it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Apr 26 2006, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz52 @ Apr 26 2006, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Marion was his only weapon. The other candidates have a lot more around them then Nash does. Marion is def top 5. I agree he's versatile but he doesnt exceed them like the top 5 players do.</div>Name 5 other players with a higher average ranking in 4 different catagories in the NBA.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ThaFranchize @ Apr 26 2006, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>^ I can't believe you said the other players have more around them... Kobe has nobody...</div>And I'm sure Nash had TONS to do with Diaws blocked shots and rebounds. Which is what his biggest contribution was.</div>O yes Boris Diaw, the nobody who I believed was traded from the Hawks. Nash didnt improve him right. So how do you explain 4.8 ppg to 13.3? Almost every statistical category improved when he went to the suns. He became an all around player and the most improved. Almost everybody on the suns had career highs in ppg. Ok thafranchize . Kobe probably has less talent than Nash but he only got them a 7th seed while Nash gave them a 2nd. The talents on both teams arent extremely different. Each has a very good player with solid players around them.
