Dame in Milwaukee thread

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by illmatic99, Sep 29, 2023.

  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2008
    Messages:
    19,527
    Likes Received:
    16,553
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He damaged Dame's reputation… and failed to set realistic expectations for Dame.
     
    Eastoff, RickyJoe and Natebishop3 like this.
  2. KingSpeed

    KingSpeed Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    62,915
    Likes Received:
    22,121
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    actor
    Location:
    New York
    He wasn’t leading us to the playoffs. We were bound for the 11th seed which probably would’ve given us Gradey Dick. It was the right move to get Scoot instead. With a chance at Wemby!
     
    Stevenson and Phatguysrule like this.
  3. Idog1976

    Idog1976 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2009
    Messages:
    6,709
    Likes Received:
    3,915
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    I look to the stars.
    Location:
    P-Town baby!
    So you believe that Cronin passed on trades, again in the mere 18 months he had the reins December 2021 to June 2023, that would have made us a contender? REALLY?! Come on man, let it go, we all know there's zero chance that's true. Zero bro. None.

    If you mean that Joe didn't give up on tremendously valuable future assets of Scoot and Sharpe to tinker around the edges only to end in failure. Sure, maybe that happened, but that would have been malpractice of the highest order had he done it. So again, how is it Cronin's fault? The only reasonable answer based on all known facts is, it is NOT Cronin's fault, but it certainly is Olshey's fault who had over a decade of failure to build a real contender around Dame. Put the blame where it belongs.
     
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2023
  4. KingSpeed

    KingSpeed Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    62,915
    Likes Received:
    22,121
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    actor
    Location:
    New York
    That wasn’t Dame’s interest. He wanted Miami and Miami only. We heard it for months. If his sole goal was contending, he would’ve had a longer list from the get go: Boston, Phoenix, Milwaukee, Lakers, Clippers, even Minnesota should’ve been on that list. And, I should add, he would’ve helped Portland because there would’ve been. a bidding war for him.
     
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2023
    GoBlazersGo and Idog1976 like this.
  5. Idog1976

    Idog1976 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2009
    Messages:
    6,709
    Likes Received:
    3,915
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    I look to the stars.
    Location:
    P-Town baby!
    Yep, championship tier women lol.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 24, 2023
    maxiep, GoBlazersGo and KingSpeed like this.
  6. Idog1976

    Idog1976 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2009
    Messages:
    6,709
    Likes Received:
    3,915
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    I look to the stars.
    Location:
    P-Town baby!
    Then why not ask for a Championship contender? I'd bet dollars to doughnuts Dame had a 12 out of a possible 10 level hot girlfriend in Miami, and/or knew he could find one there and no other championship caliber roster (other than LA) could offer that. Since he did NOT ask for even the LA teams, one can conclude he wanted something about Miami specifically. I'd guess it was a combination of no state income tax, weather, championship contending and TSP. Thinking about it more deeply, maybe it was just money plus championship with TSP as a side note. Top Shelf...
     
  7. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2008
    Messages:
    19,527
    Likes Received:
    16,553
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Did anybody hear about our offer to Milwaukee before it happened? How about the Clippers? How about New Orleans?

    I didn't hear about anything that was available or considered that would have been better than we ended up with. For win now, or for the future.

    I can't think of anything reasonable either. We needed the next Jimmy Butler situation. And that didn't present itself.
     
  8. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    44,408
    Likes Received:
    32,710
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Vagabond
    Location:
    Water Valley, Alberta Ca
    I'm not so sure that Goodwin deserves credit for Damian going to Milwaukee.
     
    SharpeScooterShooter likes this.
  9. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

    Joined:
    May 23, 2022
    Messages:
    6,171
    Likes Received:
    5,037
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Freeloader
    Location:
    Mom’s basement
    I cant stand the posts that doubt Cronin but simultaneously admit they don't know but then say they doubt he did this or that.

    As long as you doubt without knowing, you better get used to the rebuttal, cause if we don't know, neither do you!!!


    And frankly, the timeline says alot if you focused on that then you would have answered your own question for the most part…but anyone who says Joe fucked up, or leans that way regularly dismisses the timeline of events…

    What we do know is the rumors that the asking price for certain players was far too high. Brown and OG to name a couple.
    So chill out bro. Cause i cant stand those posts who just assume they know while saying they don't. Which is pretty much what you said.
    If you dont know, stop judging…
     
    Idog1976 likes this.
  10. Idog1976

    Idog1976 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2009
    Messages:
    6,709
    Likes Received:
    3,915
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    I look to the stars.
    Location:
    P-Town baby!
    Or a competent GM who didn't over value CJ, and to just pull the trigger the last time Butler was available, or PG-13, or Wiggins. But yeah, it's probably the new boss's fault and not the guy who had over a decade of failure and KNOWN missed opportunities under his belt. Yeah, its the new guy based on, my imagination of what might have happened.
     
  11. Charcoal Filtered

    Charcoal Filtered Writing Team

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2009
    Messages:
    4,739
    Likes Received:
    2,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Dame signed his extension and almost all of the fan base gasped that we would be paying him that much in the twilight of his career. That is not a player you go all-in with and trade your future with.

    Giannis signs his extension and the Bucks breathe a sigh of relief. That is a player you make those kinds of trades with.
     
  12. Idog1976

    Idog1976 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2009
    Messages:
    6,709
    Likes Received:
    3,915
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    I look to the stars.
    Location:
    P-Town baby!
    Yep, all the Cronin haters are overlooking so many things it's wild. Irrational even by sports fans standards. Also, Dame said he wants to come back and I'm sure he will. Then we can have a reasonable contract Dame in the twilight of his career, help us hit some clutch shots while Scoot and Sharpe take us to our second, third etc. championships!
     
    Natebishop3 likes this.
  13. Ripcity4life77

    Ripcity4life77 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2016
    Messages:
    1,644
    Likes Received:
    1,471
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why are we still beating this dead horse -- I have made ZERO secret what side of the fence of this issue I am on and I will hold that opinion until proven otherwise BUT by now it's time to put whatever feeling on the whole Dame summer drama in the rear view mirror and move on. This thread should be for talking about how Dame is doing with the Bucks and such NOT rehashing the summer bullshit again and just trying to keep the shit stirred up with Dame fans like myself. My final thought on it is sucks how the summer played out but the rebuild was the right call now time to support the Blazers and if your a Dame fan support him cept when he is playing the Blazers. -- PERIOD

    Go Blazers and Dame fan 4 Life
     
    kjironman1 and SlyPokerDog like this.
  14. BigGameDamian

    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2012
    Messages:
    32,262
    Likes Received:
    12,705
    Trophy Points:
    113
  15. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2018
    Messages:
    10,377
    Likes Received:
    9,334
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Good post. Only legit counter argument I could see is that Joe statements were different. Personally I don't care as GMs are not supposed to give upfront completely true statements. But I could see where Dame felt mislead if he had similar private dialog with Joe.

    But that doesn't excuse any of Dames actions.

    Very glad this is where we ended up as I agree once the Clippers trade was done there was no possible way to build a contender around Dame.

    Dame was delusional about himself, his abilities, and his power. He bluffed, bet his decade of Blazers reputation could get him whatever he wanted, and lost.
     
  16. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2014
    Messages:
    21,467
    Likes Received:
    22,165
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Pat Riley on line one-
    “We have never shopped him and had no interest in ever trading the guy,”
     
  17. KingSpeed

    KingSpeed Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    62,915
    Likes Received:
    22,121
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    actor
    Location:
    New York
    Yes! I was thinking the same thing! If no one knows, then how does he know??
     
    SharpeScooterShooter likes this.
  18. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,291
    Likes Received:
    5,854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
    Six months ago, I would have agreed with you. Now, not so much. I think something snapped in Dame with the collapse of his marriage. I don't think he would lessen his commitment to basketball, but I do think he would spend A LOT of time in South Beach partying.
     
    Phatguysrule and Natebishop3 like this.
  19. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2008
    Messages:
    19,527
    Likes Received:
    16,553
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Agreed. I think Dame wants a ring almost as much as he wants to be where he wants to be.
     
  20. inconceivable

    inconceivable Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2010
    Messages:
    2,907
    Likes Received:
    3,117
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Since I predicted Scoot's NBA debut, I will predict Dame's Milwaukee debut

    32 pts
    4 reb
    8 ast
    2 stl
    1 blk
    2 tov
     
    kjironman1 likes this.

Share This Page