OT Mass shooting, 22 dead, 60 injured

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  1. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    MAUREEN CALLAHAN: The Maine mass shooter was a known gun-nut psycho - but the authorities ignored all the alarm bells, can't catch him, and treat the press conference like an awards show. Where IS the outrage?

    ‘A tragedy that goes without comprehension’ was what one public official called Wednesday night’s mass shooting in Lewiston, Maine.

    A nation accustomed to senseless slaughter begs to differ.

    It’s tragically reminiscent of The Onion’s famous 2014 headline, always applicable: ‘“No Way to Prevent This,” Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens.’

    As of this writing, a manhunt is underway for the coward, who I have not named — because infamy is part of the thrill for such deviants – and who has been charged with shooting up a bowling alley full of children, before unleashing a fusillade of bullets at a bar four miles away.

    At least 18 people are dead. Ten of those victims have yet to be identified — recalling the carnage of Uvalde, kids whose faces were obliterated beyond recognition.

    Thirteen more are injured. Those who survive will live with this trauma forever.

    As for the shooting suspect himself — well, in the months leading up to this, he was waving all the red flags.

    He is a ‘highly trained’ Army reservist who, according to one fellow soldier, was one of the best riflemen in their unit — yet was committed to a mental hospital for two weeks this summer after he reported ‘hearing voices’.

    His superiors called police in mid-July, concerned that he was acting erratically. He was taken to an Army hospital at West Point — where he was deployed to help train cadets – for evaluation; any findings are as yet unknown.

    He recently threatened to shoot up the National Guard Base in Saco, Maine. He patronized the bowling alley and bar targeted on Wednesday night, and for months was telling family members he was sure people at both places were talking badly about him — that he was overhearing these non-existent conversations.

    ‘He truly believed he was hearing people say things,’ his sister-in-law Katie O’Neill told The Daily Beast. ‘He would get mad and claim that we didn’t believe him. We tried to listen and tell him that nobody was talking about him.’

    So despite his family and friends telling the media that this is ‘a rational, understanding person’, as one fellow reservist told CNN — or ‘the most loving, hardworking, and kind person that I know’ as O’Neill claims — clearly, he was a known threat to public safety.

    ‘This is not who he is,’ O’Neill said.

    This is EXACTLY who he is.

    He allegedly planned, strategized, targeted and executed this mass murder, at two different locations, then successfully got away — potentially crossing state lines into Massachusetts — leaving parts of Maine under complete lockdown.

    This shooting suspect, like so many others who are mentally disturbed, retained enough core competencies, enough cogency, to successfully maim and kill.

    The White House, and the entire country, has lowered the flag. How about raising the bar for gun ownership?

    How about finally addressing one of the greatest public health crises in America: The aggrieved white male — almost always the mass shooter profile — who takes out his failures, grievances and aggression on unwitting civilians and schoolchildren?

    But here was Maine’s governor Janet Mills at the press conference Thursday morning, flanked by all manner of police and public officials waiting for their turn at the podium, as if this were an awards show — statements of thanks and thoughts and prayers! — rather than a sober acknowledgement of what this is: A complete failure of local, state and federal law enforcement, a mass murderer waiting in our midst now still on the run.

    Nope, Mills was moving right past this atrocity and looking to put it in the rearview.

    ‘This is a dark day for Maine,’ she said. ‘I know it’s hard to think about healing when our hearts are broken… We will heal together.’

    Talk about tone-deaf. Where is the outrage? Where is the call at this moment, the world’s eyes upon you, to demand sensible gun reform?

    How could Mills not take this moment to note that the AR-15 rifle, a modified version used by this savage, is the favored weapon of mass shooters all over America — precisely because it kills so many so fast, its bullets designed to tear the human body apart, liquify vital organs, split skulls and turn bones into dust?

    Perhaps because Governor Mills is compromised. Perhaps because she ran in 2018 on gun control legislation that she promptly abandoned upon winning her election. Perhaps because she wouldn’t even back a proposed ‘red flag’ law that would have enabled judges to temporarily block a troubled individual's access to guns. Instead, she compromised on a so-called ‘yellow flag’ alternative, which tells you all you need to know about the gun lobby in America.

    Want to know what gun laws Maine does have on the books? Almost none.

    There are no state-mandated background checks to buy a gun in Maine. No bans on assault rifles, high-capacity magazines, or bump stocks. You don’t need a permit to own a gun, neither for concealed or open-carry. There is no 3-day waiting period to purchase one. And no requirement that the guns of domestic abusers must be confiscated.

    ‘I know that the people of Lewiston are enduring immeasurable pain,’ Mills said at the press conference — while giving herself credit for ‘working through the night’, as if that’s not the least she could do.

    Of course, we know how the debate will unfold in the coming days: The gun lobby will blame the untreated mentally ill. Advocates for the mentally ill will call for stronger gun controls.

    Can’t we all agree on the obvious — that deep reforms are needed on both sides?

    ‘This city did not deserve this terrible assault on its citizens, on its peace of mind, on its sense of security,’ Mills said Thursday.

    Indeed, it did not. If only there was someone in a position of power, who campaigned to prevent this very eventuality, who could do something about that.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...n-psycho-authorities-ignored-alarm-bells.html
     
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    That's why I said "sounds like". This is just hearsay from discussions I've read amongst some of the locals.

    But he was hearing voices, so it really could have been anything.
     
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    No doubt he knows the forests and wilderness areas like the back of his hand. Likely all the way to Canada.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    The FBI just found him.... IN HIS HOUSE!

    Live on CNN right now, ordering him to come out of his house.
     
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    He was sheltering in place, from, himself?
     
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    Definitely a tragedy. Horrible. Absolutely horrible.

    But let's not gloss over the fact that the only law that could have realistically made any difference in this situation would be the red flag law.

    But the "yellow flag" law which allows police and doctors to confiscate the guns of people who are dangers to themselves or others should have been applicable in this case. As both the police and doctors were involved in hospitalizing him for being a threat to himself or others...

    Maine has laws in place that could have removed his guns from his possession, as well as flagged him in any background check.

    They had "done something" by making that law.

    It's dishonest to pretend otherwise.
     
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    bizarre stuff

    did nobody check his home? Why did he just go home like nothing happened? Who helped him bc his car was abandoned at a boat dock (not sure how far from his house)?

    Why did this guy possess firearms months after being in a mental hospital?
     
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    ...still no confirmation he is actually in there? Could just be clearing his house to serve search warrant :dunno:
     
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    That's exactly what it is. If I had to guess I would say he's been in the deep woods somewhere with a self inflicted gunshot wound to the head since last night.
     
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    Not in his house apparently.
     
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    It took this long to find him in his house?
     
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  12. Chris Craig

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    That hadn't checked there already?
     
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    Looks like it was a property he owned but he wasn't there.
     
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    They found his car southeast of Lewiston. Looks like he jumped on his boat and fled up or down the river there.
     
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    Not reading these threads anymore. Assuming the pro gun people are claiming this ISN’T a gun problem right? But something to do with his head?
     
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    Because this country's gun laws are really fucked up.
     
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    WE HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO BE SANE!

    :NOTMARIS:
     
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    It's sad man. In the end, these people murders won't matter. Their murders won't change anything. It's a tragedy that's all. Let's send our thoughts and prayers and we can all move on.
     
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    There is a law in place that was supposed to prevent this guy from having a gun.
     
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