Are the Blazers better with Brogdon instead of Dame?

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by SharpesTriumph, Nov 5, 2023.

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Blazers are better with Brogdon instead of Dame?

Poll closed Dec 5, 2023.
  1. Yes - Brogdon helps the Blazers win more than Dame

    20.9%
  2. No - Dame is better

    79.1%
  1. CJ_is_Gone

    CJ_is_Gone Well-Known Member

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    Not better... yet

    Loosing Dame obviously hurts a lot. But Portland was in a groundhogs day scenario where every season was frustratingly similar.

    It was time to move on. Blazers took a step backwards so that they can hopefully move 4-5 steps forward
     
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  2. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    The relevant questions which should be asked.
     
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  3. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    I want to save this for a rainy day

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  4. TBpup

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    Very fair.

    Again, Dame being the best player vs Brogdon being the best player is not the premise. Of course Dame is better....he is superstar level (offensively). But once upon a time, Monta Ellis was the best offensive player on the Warriors and they traded him for size, length and defense. None of those players were as good as Monte....especially offensively like he had been, but it was better for the WARRIORS.....the team.

    Dame is the better player (offensively). Not sure anyone is even suggesting otherwise. But add in Brogdon's efficiency (he was a 50/40/90 player last year) and his defense, and perhaps it is a better fit for the team and possibly a better example to be a competitor on both ends.

    How is that not up for at least a discussion. And it wasn't a statement. It was a question about the Blazers. Perhaps it could have been worded in a more precise manner, but it is a poll title for goodness sake.
     
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  5. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    You can click on the now 6 people and see who they are though I’m sure you can guess at least three of them. Yep your buddy is in there.
     
  6. BassPlaya

    BassPlaya Puntificator

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    Is the board better without this thread?

    I kid....I kid....
     
  7. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    What’s more, you lost a bet to one of them.
     
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  8. Tince

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    Again, nobody can make a claim this isn't a comparison between Dame/Brodgon when those two are specifically listed. It's not poorly worded, it's intentionally asking which player makes the team better.

    We agree Dame is better than Brodgon. I'm not sure if you think Brogdon is our best player. If you don't, then asking if a top 75 player of all time makes a team better than a 6th man, with so many other moving parts, makes no sense. If you do think Brogdon is our best player, then I guess we'll see if he leads this team to a better regular season winning percentage than Dame did in 10 season.

    Of course, any reasonable person will realize this team will finish with a worse record this year than an average season where Dame was healthy, and cite the many other variables for this, which is exactly my original point for why the question is silly.
     
  9. BLAZINGGIANTS

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    While the thread title doesn’t distinguish the year, the OP makes it clear it’s a discussion of this year versus last year. Which is what my post focused on.
     
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  10. KingSpeed

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    137-173 record is misleading. We benched him and tried to lose 25-30 of those games. And he missed time with surgery. If you’re going to say 3-3 without him, then post the record actually with him and actually without him. That said, I love the direction we’re headed.
     
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    Keep in mind, we started 4-0 last year. With Dame.
     
  12. Phatguysrule

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    Every GM in the league would gladly trade Brogdon and his salary for Dame and his salary if they could.

    This question is silly.
     
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  13. Mediocre Man

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    MUCH better defensively
     
  14. Pinwheel1

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    Agree, Yet 40 people voted to trade him by the deadline, including yourself. A lot of people wanting to make sure we tank again. My question is how many of those 40 will be bitching about Chauncey's record once we do.
     
  15. blazerkor

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    I know I won't be complaining about Chauncey's record... the dude has never been given a functional roster and has never finished a season in which the team was trying to win games.

    I would like to secure another high draft pick this season. Also I'd like to get some real value back for Malcolm in the form of prospects or draft capital. I think if you trade some of these guys that can help teams that need win now players we can end up with one of the worst records in the league without sitting our best guys and come out of the trades with even more value to continue the rebuild.
     
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    apples and oranges. For a rebuild and mentoring I give the nod to Mal. But Dame, all by himself, can completely take over a game. Brogdon isn't that kind of a player imho.
     
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    Yeah but now we are back to what would we really get in return from a contender. Another pick in the 20s for Malcolm is not enough. I prefer keeping 2-way players since we rarely get them.
     
  18. Phatguysrule

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    I couldn't care less about Chauncey's record. I care about him developing the correct people. If guys aren't developing we need to get somebody in here who will do a better job.

    Benching Sharpe is not a good look.
     
  19. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    Sorry man. Tbis instant world makes it easy to forget the past and have revisionist history.
    @SharpesTriumph , ask yourself this. Do you think Brogdon gets the teams Dame had to the playoffs every year like Dame did?
    If not, then You answered your own question, and i think its pretty obvious what that answer is.
     
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  20. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I'll tell you this much: I was hoping for a CJ-for-Brogdon deal years ago when Brogdon was in Indy.
     

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