<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 2 2006, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So you'd think a college grad would be able to do the 5th or 6th grade math then, yes?</div>I don't think it's any secret that colleges let athletes come and go without hardly stepping into a real classroom. Not to mention that I doubt he graduated, especially since he left early.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 2 2006, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I was just answering the question. As I'm sure you saw, the question was posed on if I thought Vince would be a faster, bigger, version of Vick with a stronger arm.The answer is that his arm isn't near as strong, his legs not near as fast. He's more comparable to Kyle Boller or Donovan McNabb.</div>So technically you're right, you just made it sound like Young wouldn't be able to hold a candle to Vick when it's clear that VY is way ahead of where Vick was coming out of college.
apparently, brad smith will try out for QB (i assume 3rd) but is willing to accept being switched to WR or RB
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ May 2 2006, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>apparently, brad smith will try out for QB (i assume 3rd) but is willing to accept being switched to WR or RB</div>He has no chance of winning that QB job though IMO.
[quote name='jeefunk' post='45013' date='May 2 2006, 12:16 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='45003' date='May 2 2006, 11:14 AM']So you'd think a college grad would be able to do the 5th or 6th grade math then, yes?[/quote]I don't think it's any secret that colleges let athletes come and go without hardly stepping into a real classroom. Not to mention that I doubt he graduated, especially since he left early.[/quote]OK, let me rephrase... you think a High School Grad should be able to do 5th grade math, yes? So technically you're right, you just made it sound like Young wouldn't be able to hold a candle to Vick when it's clear that VY is way ahead of where Vick was coming out of college.[/quote]Well obviously things like Field Vision, Leadership, Accuracy, etc, etc all play into it. But if you are going to compare him to a QB in the NFL, it's McNabb, Boller, Culpepper. Not Vick.Just because he's black and is a running QB, doesn't mean he's a Mike Vick type QB.[quote name='Nebkreb' post='45051' date='May 2 2006, 02:48 PM']apparently, brad smith will try out for QB (i assume 3rd) but is willing to accept being switched to WR or RB[/quote]IMO, we should cut Ramsey. It was a waste of a 6th round pick to do so, yes, but I prefer Brooksie to Ramsey, and with Clemens on the roster now, someone is going to have to be cut. Have Penny be the starter, Brooksie and Clemens battle for the backup spot, and Smith can be our emergency QB.
i agree that Ramsey should be cut...i think that he cant do anything for us...only way he plays if Penny is injured and that would screw us nayway...at least young QB (Clemens, brad smith) can improve and maybe eventually take over
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 2 2006, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ May 2 2006, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>apparently, brad smith will try out for QB (i assume 3rd) but is willing to accept being switched to WR or RB</div>IMO, we should cut Ramsey. It was a waste of a 6th round pick to do so, yes, but I prefer Brooksie to Ramsey, and with Clemens on the roster now, someone is going to have to be cut. Have Penny be the starter, Brooksie and Clemens battle for the backup spot, and Smith can be our emergency QB.</div>Ding Ding Ding! Agreed.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 2 2006, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well obviously things like Field Vision, Leadership, Accuracy, etc, etc all play into it. But if you are going to compare him to a QB in the NFL, it's McNabb, Boller, Culpepper. Not Vick.Just because he's black and is a running QB, doesn't mean he's a Mike Vick type QB.</div>Someone else compared him to Vick, not me. I agree though, he's definitely more in the mold of a McNabb, Culpepper, and of course the beloved Steve McNair.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jeefunk @ May 2 2006, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 2 2006, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well obviously things like Field Vision, Leadership, Accuracy, etc, etc all play into it. But if you are going to compare him to a QB in the NFL, it's McNabb, Boller, Culpepper. Not Vick.Just because he's black and is a running QB, doesn't mean he's a Mike Vick type QB.</div>Someone else compared him to Vick, not me. I agree though, he's definitely more in the mold of a McNabb, Culpepper, and of course the beloved Steve McNair.</div>I don't see him in the McNair mold, but ok.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 2 2006, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't see him in the McNair mold, but ok.</div>He's a lot closer to McNair than to Boller.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jeefunk @ May 3 2006, 09:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 2 2006, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't see him in the McNair mold, but ok.</div>He's a lot closer to McNair than to Boller.</div>He is similar to the Younger, Mobile McNair. But the recent Steve McNair who has become just another pocket passer is not similar in any way to Vince Young.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ May 3 2006, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jeefunk @ May 3 2006, 09:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 2 2006, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't see him in the McNair mold, but ok.</div>He's a lot closer to McNair than to Boller.</div>He is similar to the Younger, Mobile McNair. But the recent Steve McNair who has become just another pocket passer is not similar in any way to Vince Young.</div>I suppose that could be true. The current McNair gets through 3 or 4 options before running, Vince gets through 1.
Vince Young will suck plain and simple. I dunno which player will have the best conversion, but I hope Marques Hagans can return well. I doubt he'll even be our 5th receiver, but he should be able to return punts over McDonald, who lost us 2 games last season muffing punt returns.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5 @ May 4 2006, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Vince Young will suck plain and simple.</div>Well, I'm sold. I guess he sucks.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ May 12 2006, 06:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lol Steelers didnt start it and Randel El is extremely overrated (Even more overpaid).</div>Hater, the glory days of the late 80's and 90's are long gone brotha!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hypnotic @ May 12 2006, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ May 12 2006, 06:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lol Steelers didnt start it and Randel El is extremely overrated (Even more overpaid).</div>Hater, the glory days of the late 80's and 90's are long gone brotha!!! </div>A new 49er dynasty will begin buddy
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ May 12 2006, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hypnotic @ May 12 2006, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (david81 @ May 12 2006, 06:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lol Steelers didnt start it and Randel El is extremely overrated (Even more overpaid).</div>Hater, the glory days of the late 80's and 90's are long gone brotha!!! </div>A new 49er dynasty will begin buddy </div>A dynasty requires winning more then 6 games a year, buddy.
[quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='47526' date='May 12 2006, 06:05 PM'][quote name='david81' post='47516' date='May 12 2006, 04:47 PM'][quote name='Hypnotic' post='47478' date='May 12 2006, 04:18 PM'][quote name='david81' post='47458' date='May 12 2006, 06:16 PM']Lol Steelers didnt start it and Randel El is extremely overrated (Even more overpaid).[/quote]Hater, the glory days of the late 80's and 90's are long gone brotha!!! [/quote]A new 49er dynasty will begin buddy [/quote]A dynasty requires winning more then 6 games a year, buddy. [/quote]Then I guess the Jets will be without one for another decade or two eh?
