Cut Moses, Convert Mays

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    We need to ditch Brown.

    Convert Mays. He’s gonna need to be converted anyway. Sign another point guard to a two way.

    Use Reath as the main backup big.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Reath is on a two way. We can use him whenever we want.
     
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    Up to a certain amount of games.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Marang says we will probably file for an injury exception for Rob. Says we might get 5 million we could use.
     
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    Portland already has the $10m MLE available right now & they chose not to use it.
    There's also a couple if $8m TPE on the books too.

    These are larger and have the same flexibility as the DPE injury exception.


    No harm in getting the $5m DPE as well... but it will not matter
     
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    I think the DPE provides more luxury tax space though right?

    Blazers probably want to leave some tax space for trades too
     
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    Wonder if the Blazers planned on bringing Shaq back.
     
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    What happened to the big guy who died his hair like Sysco?
     
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    I don't disagree with the idea of this thread, but it should probably be done after the deadline. Moses's salary may be useful for matching purposes.
     
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    yeah, that's how I'm looking at it:

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    Blazers are 5.3M under the tax and we can be about 97% certain Seattle won't agree to the Blazers going over the tax line this season. Portland has their full MLE so they could sign a player; and they have that pair of 8.3-8.8M TPE's so they could trade for players. That DPE is pretty irrelevant because it's redundant with what Portland already has

    now, those TPE's might come in handy if the Blazers become really active heading into the trade deadline. And as you said, just applying for and receiving that DPE costs nothing so sure, get it

    but chances are really high none of those exceptions will be used unless there's some great 3-5M opportunity. Kind of disappointing
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    I haven't seen anything about that. AFAIK, both the Williams full salary and the salary of the player acquired with the DPE count against the cap & tax. If Williams medically retires then his salary would fall off the cap

    but maybe there's been a change in the new CBA I'm not aware of
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    DPE's are both more flexible and less flexible than MLE's and TPE's. DPE's can be used in either trades, signings, or waiver claims.

    BUT, IIRC, DPE's can only be used on players in the final years of their current contract in trades and waiver claims. TPE's don't have that restriction
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    speaking of changes, starting next season the MLE becomes a lot more flexible. Teams will be able to use the MLE in trades like a TPE:

    "Beginning in 2024/25, this form of mid-level exception can be used to acquire a non-free-agent via trade, as long as his contract fits into the exception (in terms of years and dollars)."

    https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/07/hoops-rumors-glossary-mid-level-exception-6.html

    that's going to change the off-season & trade deadline calculations for a lot of teams
     
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    Next domino to drop? Sign another 2 way and or cut one big to sign another big?
     
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    So when everyone is healthy, you'll have Ant, Brog, Scoot, Shae and Sky all under contract. Someone (MB) is getting moved.
     
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    They should probably get some value for Brogdon before he ends up like Rob Williams.
     
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    Yeah. That was my fear from the beginning with both of them.
     
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    Simons has been hurt a lot over the couple years. I know tank city....
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Scoot was hurt quite a bit last season too. We have a few guys that are injury prone.
     
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    Edited for historical accuracy. :twothumbs:
     
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    Where was all this negativity pre draft? All these recently uncovered negatives around Scoot. Injury prone, mediocre stats. Wtf? Why didn’t we draft Ausar instead? Im actually questioning the franchise on this pick now. I didn’t drill down at all on Scoot but is he just pure hype? Starting to sound like we made a mistake and a preventable one.
     

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