10) Patrick Willis - LB - Mississippi9) Michael Bush - RB - Louisville8) Marshawn Lynch - RB - California7) Justin Blalock - OT - Texas6) Paul Posluszny - LB - Penn St.5) Dwayne Jarrett - WR - USC4) Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville3) Calvin Johnson - WR - Georgia Tech2) Brady Quinn - QB - Notre Dame1) Adrian Peterson - RB - Oklahomahttp://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedi...content.10.html
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JHair @ May 2 2006, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Jeff Samardzija will be a top 10 next year</div>1) Theres no guarantee he will even go in the NFL has the MLB scouts have been all over him also and is ranked as one of Baseball America's top 100 prospects. 2) Lets wait before you sing his praises, he has greatly benefitted from having Brady Quinn as his quarterback and has only really prodcued one season at the college football level while putting up very medicore numbers the other 2 years, and maybe its just me but he has seemed relatively slow every time I've seen him play and theres no way hes a top 10 pick if he puts up a slow 40 time.2003 12-0 7 53 7.6 0 192004 12-1 17 274 16.1 0 412005 11-11 71 1190 16.8 15 80
yea he is slow for a wideout. He wont go top 10 unless a team really wants him badly and thinks a top 10 pick might make him think twice about throwing the baseball for a living.
Saw this a couple days ago, 49ers draft Calvin Johnson with the 3rd overall pick! Dont know what we gave to trade up there though lol.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bobferg @ May 2 2006, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yea he is slow for a wideout. He wont go top 10 unless a team really wants him badly and thinks a top 10 pick might make him think twice about throwing the baseball for a living.</div>Speed didn't hurt Mike Williams... or Keyshawn.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ May 2 2006, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>10) Patrick Willis - LB - Mississippi9) Michael Bush - RB - Louisville8) Marshawn Lynch - RB - California7) Justin Blalock - OT - Texas6) Paul Posluszny - LB - Penn St.5) Dwayne Jarrett - WR - USC4) Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville3) Calvin Johnson - WR - Georgia Tech2) Brady Quinn - QB - Notre Dame1) Adrian Peterson - RB - Oklahomahttp://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedi...content.10.html</div>Lynch ahead of Bush? No Drew Stanton?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 2 2006, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Speed didn't hurt Mike Williams... or Keyshawn.</div>Yep. If nobody didnt know, Cris Carter was very slow too and look at his stats... It doesn't matter if you're slow as long you can be productive. Thats what matters.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xpostxscript @ May 2 2006, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 2 2006, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Speed didn't hurt Mike Williams... or Keyshawn.</div>Yep. If nobody didnt know, Cris Carter was very slow too and look at his stats... It doesn't matter if you're slow as long you can be productive. Thats what matters.</div>Which is why the Steal of the Draft IMO is Mike Hass. He, and Kiper agrees with me (a rarity), has the BEST hands in the draft, AND runs the BEST routes. The only reason Hass wasn't a 1st round pick (and the first WR taken) was because he's simply not fast.
I fully agree with that. Another name that should be mentioned in that sense is Jason Avant, who got drafted by the Eagles. He didn't go until second day because of his 40 time, but he has some great hands... Jerry Rice doesn't have great timed speed, look at him now.
i think jerry rice cant be compared here...i doubt any WR in the draft has the work ethic or football intelligence of jerry rice...
I was just saying, as far as speed... I'm not saying any of them will be up there with Jerry Rice. But I was just saying, it's possible for them to be successful... and maybe even superstars.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 2 2006, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bobferg @ May 2 2006, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yea he is slow for a wideout. He wont go top 10 unless a team really wants him badly and thinks a top 10 pick might make him think twice about throwing the baseball for a living.</div>Speed didn't hurt Mike Williams... or Keyshawn.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ May 2 2006, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>10) Patrick Willis - LB - Mississippi9) Michael Bush - RB - Louisville8) Marshawn Lynch - RB - California7) Justin Blalock - OT - Texas6) Paul Posluszny - LB - Penn St.5) Dwayne Jarrett - WR - USC4) Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville3) Calvin Johnson - WR - Georgia Tech2) Brady Quinn - QB - Notre Dame1) Adrian Peterson - RB - Oklahomahttp://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedi...content.10.html</div>Lynch ahead of Bush? No Drew Stanton?</div>Jeff Samardzija is also going to be slightly hurt because hes the 3rd best WR in the class after Johnson and Jarrett and not alot of teams drafting in the top 10 have WR as one of their biggest needs. And we all know what kind of effect a 40 time has on a players draft status. Weather or not he will be a successful pro is a whole different story, and judgeing by your examples Vilma (Keyshawn at #2 WR at #1 overall) and Mike Williams (a backup with a top 10 pick) I would say speed has a big effect on it.Stanton is ok, but hes a mile behind Brohm and Quinn when it comes to quarterback prospects IMO. He'll probably run the same course as Cutler (Second round pick who gets the hype train up into mid round 1).
The whole speed/good hands thing... I must say... the game has evolved like every other sport.The game is more about speed. The fastest WRs are usually the best these days (Randy Moss, T.O., Steve Smith, Santana Moss, Chad Johnson are all fast(ish))
[quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='45104' date='May 2 2006, 05:33 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='45084' date='May 2 2006, 03:48 PM'][quote name='bobferg' post='45078' date='May 2 2006, 04:26 PM']yea he is slow for a wideout. He wont go top 10 unless a team really wants him badly and thinks a top 10 pick might make him think twice about throwing the baseball for a living.[/quote]Speed didn't hurt Mike Williams... or Keyshawn.[quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='45065' date='May 2 2006, 03:22 PM']10) Patrick Willis - LB - Mississippi9) Michael Bush - RB - Louisville8) Marshawn Lynch - RB - California7) Justin Blalock - OT - Texas6) Paul Posluszny - LB - Penn St.5) Dwayne Jarrett - WR - USC4) Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville3) Calvin Johnson - WR - Georgia Tech2) Brady Quinn - QB - Notre Dame1) Adrian Peterson - RB - Oklahomahttp://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedi...content.10.html[/quote]Lynch ahead of Bush? No Drew Stanton?[/quote]Jeff Samardzija is also going to be slightly hurt because hes the 3rd best WR in the class after Johnson and Jarrett and not alot of teams drafting in the top 10 have WR as one of their biggest needs. And we all know what kind of effect a 40 time has on a players draft status. Weather or not he will be a successful pro is a whole different story, and judgeing by your examples Vilma (Keyshawn at #2 WR at #1 overall) and Mike Williams (a backup with a top 10 pick) I would say speed has a big effect on it.Stanton is ok, but hes a mile behind Brohm and Quinn when it comes to quarterback prospects IMO. He'll probably run the same course as Cutler (Second round pick who gets the hype train up into mid round 1).[/quote]So speed WR's from the top 10 like Koren Robinson are better? I was saying speed doesn't hurt them as in draft stock. When a player is truely special (a la Keyshawn and Williams) in college, then teams will overlook their 4.5 40 times.Stanton has all the tools (Unlike Young and Leinart) and is actually fairly successful in college (unlike Cutler).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rusty Shackleford @ May 2 2006, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>WOW!!!!!!!! The Heisman winner falls out of the top ten </div>That's because Drew Weatherford won't be old enough to go pro yet.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 3 2006, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rusty Shackleford @ May 2 2006, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>WOW!!!!!!!! The Heisman winner falls out of the top ten </div>That's because Drew Weatherford won't be old enough to go pro yet. </div>I said Heisman winner, not "Ishould be backing up Xavier Lee"Of course we are talking about 2,000 Yard rusher Kenny Irons, from Running Back/Linebacker U (yeah I know I'm a homer)
here is a fresh look, with more players. PS. No John Talley..........what the hell is pete smoking http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9411057/1
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bobferg @ May 3 2006, 02:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>here is a fresh look, with more players. PS. No John Talley..........what the hell is pete smoking http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9411057/1</div>I only watched one UTEP game last year, but Jordan Palmer looked like trash.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Was I the only one who saw all four NFC North teams in the top ten? That puts Minnesota in the top ten of the draft, and in the playoffs. Which is impossible.Green Bay (1st)Chicago (4th)Detroit (7th)Minnesota (9th)In the mock draft, that was where they were.
