... Someone stealing your car and saying "Well now that I've had it for a few yars I should get to keep it."
I have nothing against immigrants in any way, but how can you have rights if your not a citizen? Doesn't make sense...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (thepowerofX @ May 4 2006, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I have nothing against immigrants in any way, but how can you have rights if your not a citizen? Doesn't make sense...</div>I have nothing against immigrants. Legal immigrants. Come in legally, I'm all for it. It's the illegals that I have a problem with. This country was built by immigrants, legal immigrants. My ancestors are Scottish, hardly "Native Americans." But I wouldn't cross the border into Canada illegally and have expectations for them to just let me stay and have all their rights and protections of their citizens.
I feel that while they should have to go thru the paperwork that people who came here legally had to, as it is not fair to those people such as my parents, they should stay here as long as they pay taxes and fill out the paperwork to legally be here. If the Mexicans get deported, who's going to serve you at McDonalds, who's going to make your sandwiches at Subway, who's going to mow your lawn, who's going to do your landscaping? They do so many things we take for granted. There is a Subway in the plaza I work at, and <span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%">ALL</span> the workers are Mexicans aside from the owner, and Monday was the Mexican walk-out/skip work day, all of them didn't show up with the owner's blessing, and the store was closed.
I've talked with a few of my friends that happen to be illegal immigrants, and they get pissed at me for believing that "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" does NOT mean that anyone can mosey over here and shack up.There's a process. And if you don't obey it, you're out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrianUrlacher54 @ May 5 2006, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I feel that while they should have to go thru the paperwork that people who came here legally had to, as it is not fair to those people such as my parents, they should stay here as long as they pay taxes and fill out the paperwork to legally be here. If the Mexicans get deported, who's going to serve you at McDonalds, who's going to make your sandwiches at Subway, who's going to mow your lawn, who's going to do your landscaping? They do so many things we take for granted. There is a Subway in the plaza I work at, and <span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%">ALL</span> the workers are Mexicans aside from the owner, and Monday was the Mexican walk-out/skip work day, all of them didn't show up with the owner's blessing, and the store was closed.</div>I don't know about you, but where I live those jobs are mostly filled by High School and College students, not illegals. I don't see why that would be a problem everywhere else.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bravest @ May 5 2006, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I've talked with a few of my friends that happen to be illegal immigrants, and they get pissed at me for believing that "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" does NOT mean that anyone can mosey over here and shack up.There's a process. And if you don't obey it, you're out.</div>Like I said, I don't believe that I'm entitled to walk into Canada and share in everything they have without a process of legally getting me there.
Same here. Most of those jobs you listed BrianUrlacher are taken by high school and college students not illegal immigrants. And believe me when I say that there are people desperate enough to take over the jobs that the illegals do. No question about it.
Mexicans dont work at McDonalds because it requires strict paperwork since it is a big company. They work at landscaping, construction, etc stuff like that. Physical labor in general. Like i said before vilma and venom. if you were in their situation, desperate for money, better life for you and your children then you'll do the exact same thing. You have no idea of what they go through in their country mainly because everyone in america is spoiled.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>...if you were in their situation, desperate for money, better life for you and your children then you'll do the exact same thing. You have no idea of what they go through in their country mainly because everyone in america is spoiled....</div>You obviously have no clue what your talking about man.You telling me I have no idea of what they go through? And I suppose you do huh? Well actually,I do because we went down to various places in central american with our church.And if I was in there situation,no I wouldnt come into the country illegally...I would spend 3-4 weeks doing what needs to be done to get into America legally. And then you call us lazy. Well im not denying that most Americans are lazy because they are,but if you come into the country illegally...YOUR LAZY. Its not that hard to come in legally.Funny thing is...many of aliens come over and actually DO find work because they actually DO want to support their families,but I can guarentee you that 50% of them have no jobs and are living on welfair which is kinda funny because the last time I checked,you had to be a citizen of the US to get any type of financial aid from the US. Now, they come in...live off of YOUR MONEY. You work hard,get TONS of taxes taken out while they sit at their homes illegally getting checks in the mail that came out of your money and evading taxes that YOU have to pay and you have the nerve to stand up for them...whats wrong with you man..seriously. And on top of that...they had a protest in Memphis and they were holding Mexican flags screaming "Viva Mexico!" and that REALLY pissed me off to the point of not having and sincerity to them whatsoever. If you like your country so much,go back.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DW20 @ May 5 2006, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>btw,dont mind me..I dont mean to attack you lol...im just very outspoken on this subject.</div>I'm the same way. I just believe it is dumb to come here and have children and have us pay for them. Anyone thinking they should not be deported obviously is either illegal, or dumb as a pile of bricks. They come here to have children and make it so the government has to pay for them to grow up and go to school. I think that if your parents are illegal and they have you in this country we should not have to take care of their kids. That isn't our priority. Also, where the illegals do work, is a big problem. They are taking a lot of jobs that some Americans could use. Legal citizens not having jobs because of these morons is just dumb. They aren't here legally and are taking jobs away from us, which is just sad. We have way too much population as it is and they want to be here? I live in Jersey, and our school is really poorly handled and poor because our dumb board is fully based on crappy people who can't spend a budget right. We are paying for these idiotic illegals to go to our school when they don't pay taxes and we do. America is too densely populated, my school is somewhat small for a high school, and we have over 1300+ kids. It is absolutely insane how dumb this country is becoming. I say get rid of every immigrant that is illegal. The economy is falling and people are getting poorer for these morons taking our citizen's jobs.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz52 @ May 5 2006, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Mexicans dont work at McDonalds because it requires strict paperwork since it is a big company. They work at landscaping, construction, etc stuff like that. Physical labor in general. Like i said before vilma and venom. if you were in their situation, desperate for money, better life for you and your children then you'll do the exact same thing. You have no idea of what they go through in their country mainly because everyone in america is spoiled.</div>Danger, danger... don't you mean "Illegal Immigrants" ?Seriously though, I don't see any non-english speakers (and most of them are white faces) doing the landscaping. I'm not around much construction, but my brother in law finances the building of upscale homes (generally the 500,000 to 2 mil. nothing too extreme) and I can guarantee he never hires illegal labor.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DW20 @ May 5 2006, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>...if you were in their situation, desperate for money, better life for you and your children then you'll do the exact same thing. You have no idea of what they go through in their country mainly because everyone in america is spoiled....</div>You obviously have no clue what your talking about man.You telling me I have no idea of what they go through? And I suppose you do huh? Well actually,I do because we went down to various places in central american with our church.And if I was in there situation,no I wouldnt come into the country illegally...I would spend 3-4 weeks doing what needs to be done to get into America legally. And then you call us lazy. Well im not denying that most Americans are lazy because they are,but if you come into the country illegally...YOUR LAZY. Its not that hard to come in legally.Funny thing is...many of aliens come over and actually DO find work because they actually DO want to support their families,but I can guarentee you that 50% of them have no jobs and are living on welfair which is kinda funny because the last time I checked,you had to be a citizen of the US to get any type of financial aid from the US. Now, they come in...live off of YOUR MONEY. You work hard,get TONS of taxes taken out while they sit at their homes illegally getting checks in the mail that came out of your money and evading taxes that YOU have to pay and you have the nerve to stand up for them...whats wrong with you man..seriously. And on top of that...they had a protest in Memphis and they were holding Mexican flags screaming "Viva Mexico!" and that REALLY pissed me off to the point of not having and sincerity to them whatsoever. If you like your country so much,go back.</div>First of all when the hell did I say you're name? Refresh my freakin mind and tell me where i said your freaking name. YOU HAVE NO FREAKIN IDEA OF WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT. Ok cool u went down to central america and what? That doesnt make you unspoiled. So you see poverty for a day and u feel special. Guess what I see poverty every single day. and if u were in the situation rejected by America continously then i bet on my life that you would do it. you wouldnt want to stay in a country with so such a hard life. 3-4 weeks? Illegals spend years trying to get in. Actually coming in illegally isnt being lazy. Its the last resort and they'll do anything physically to come in. YOU CANT GET FREAKIN WELFAIR IF UR ILLEGAL. WHATS NEXT ILLEGALS GETTING THEIR DRIVERS LICENSE. i guarantee you every alien is a hardworker. you know why because they freakin realize how lucky they are. ILLEGALS DONT GET MONEY ONCE AGAIN IF THEYRE ILLEGAL. you have no idea of what ur talking about. What the fuck is wrong with you, , Your a freakin immigrant. Your ancestors probably came through ellis island. Theyre just a later generation of immigrants. AND WHY DID THEY COME FOR THE SAME REASONS THE ILLEGALS ARE. whats wrong with being patriotic for their country. just because theyre america doesnt mean they have to forget about their past. Dont came at me with this BS son. You and you're small minded brain. WAKE THE FUCK UP.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 6 2006, 01:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz52 @ May 5 2006, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Mexicans dont work at McDonalds because it requires strict paperwork since it is a big company. They work at landscaping, construction, etc stuff like that. Physical labor in general. Like i said before vilma and venom. if you were in their situation, desperate for money, better life for you and your children then you'll do the exact same thing. You have no idea of what they go through in their country mainly because everyone in america is spoiled.</div>Danger, danger... don't you mean "Illegal Immigrants" ?Seriously though, I don't see any non-english speakers (and most of them are white faces) doing the landscaping. I'm not around much construction, but my brother in law finances the building of upscale homes (generally the 500,000 to 2 mil. nothing too extreme) and I can guarantee he never hires illegal labor.</div>The kid above me was talking about mexicans. Why wouldnt he not hire illegal laborers. they get no benefits. its lets money. They have no insurance and theyre hard workers. If you have never seen an alien landscaper, then you got 2 look a lil closer.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz52 @ May 5 2006, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 6 2006, 01:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz52 @ May 5 2006, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Mexicans dont work at McDonalds because it requires strict paperwork since it is a big company. They work at landscaping, construction, etc stuff like that. Physical labor in general. Like i said before vilma and venom. if you were in their situation, desperate for money, better life for you and your children then you'll do the exact same thing. You have no idea of what they go through in their country mainly because everyone in america is spoiled.</div>Danger, danger... don't you mean "Illegal Immigrants" ?Seriously though, I don't see any non-english speakers (and most of them are white faces) doing the landscaping. I'm not around much construction, but my brother in law finances the building of upscale homes (generally the 500,000 to 2 mil. nothing too extreme) and I can guarantee he never hires illegal labor.</div>The kid above me was talking about mexicans. Why wouldnt he not hire illegal laborers. they get no benefits. its lets money. They have no insurance and theyre hard workers. If you have never seen an alien landscaper, then you got 2 look a lil closer.</div>Because he's a good clean law abiding citizen. Just because something is cheaper, doesn't mean you should break the law to do it.I didn't say none of them were aliens, I said they, of my experience, speak English. And most landscapers are white college aged men here in Washington. So unless they are Russian illegal immigrants...
