Malcolm Brogdon trade ideas

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  1. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    That can work both ways. Players who are effective without elite athleticism can play a lot longer than those who rely on it. But we don't really need him for 4-5 years. We need him right now.
     
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    Sheesh. Of course the qualifier, “young”, matters. I’m not in the habit of just throwing in extra words for no purpose. And of course I’m not saying that the addition of the one more young player makes the Blazers contenders. What I am saying is that there comes a time when a team has sufficient talented young prospects and needs to start making trades and/or free agent signings to add specific experienced players who can push the team into contention. The Kings added Sabonis and are finally somewhat relevant. The T’Wolves traded for Gobert and may be ready to do something. The notion that you can load up an entire roster with young guys who don’t know their ass from an NBA hoop and expect to achieve success by losing for years on end is massively stupid.
     
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    I agree

    now, it's best if the 'core' is on the same timeline, but a core is usually 2 or 3 players, almost never 4. But outside of the core, the mileage can vary and probably should vary. Experience has value, and usually, a prime component of that value is consistency. Young players like Sharpe and Scoot are wildly inconsistent and it will take a few seasons before that changes.
     
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    Malcolm will be too valuable to a team that needs to win now not to trade by the deadline.
     
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  5. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    4-5 years is fine. But Brogdon is TEN YEARS older than Scoot and Shae. I have no problem with guys in their mid 20s being a part of our core. Thybulle and Ayton and even Camara is 4 years older than Scoot. That’s all fine. But I don’t see the point of holding onto a dude who is 30 and we are several years away from being decent. Plus we still have a ton of guards. Brogdon is a luxury that we don’t need right now. We need the assets we could get from him a lot more.
     
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  7. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    So who sits to make room for Malcolm?

    Simons?
    Scoot?
    Sharpe?
     
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    the Rockets got a lot better by adding 27-year-old (28 in Jan) Dillon Brooks and 29-year-old (3o in Feb) Fred Van Vleet.

    Is someone suggesting reversing this process to get assets?

    How is it good for Scoot, Sharpe and Ayton to play on a crappy team?
     
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    Brogdon is a thick 6'5". He can fit in several places in the lineup when there are injuries. There is no other player like that on the team.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I think that’s debatable and I personally would not have made those signings.

    I think getting Udoka was their biggest pickup.
     
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    You don't need the entire team to be a certain age range just because Scoot is. I would think it's good for Scoot to learn from someone and have an example. For anyone paying attention, Brogdon is not just a luxury and we do need him right now.
     
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    All of them, a little bit. Scoot needs to be eased in, Simons will need to be eased in, and Sharpe doesn’t need to play 36-40 a night if we’re not making the playoffs.

    there’s 48+48+24 minutes at Guard and backup SF; we have the room for four players to fill that.
     
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    First of all, I would build my roster assuming one of them might be injured. Hell with our luck maybe plan for two of them to be on the IR.

    But let's say they are all healthy........ when you say who sits do you mean who doesn't start? That would be the rookie. He doesn't get an automatic starting position because he was drafted 3rd. He can develop with 20 minutes per game. (more minutes when another guard is injured)

    I personally would roll with the 2-deep below. Who plays the most will depend on how well they are playing that night, which could depend on who the competition is. Keep in mind that having the 229 lb Brogdon running the point on offense would allow both Sharpe and Simons to play wings. Malcolm can guard most SFs. (last night Indiana started Bruce Brown at SF who is 6'4" 202)

    Malcolm-Scoot
    Simons-Thybulle
    Sharpe-Camara (I would consider swapping these two if the opponent is bigger)
    Grant-Walker
    Ayton-Duop
     
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    Scoot, duh.
     
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    ant will eat into sharpe's minutes at the 2, and some of brogdon's minutes at the 1.

    sharpe will eat into camara's minutes at the 3.

    camara will eat into walker's minutes at the 4.

    walker will eat into reath's minutes at the 5
     
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    echoing some other sentiments, do you think they will all be available all the time?
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I didn’t say we should trade him right now. I’m talking about before the deadline. Simons should be back in the next few weeks.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I don’t understand playing our prized rookie 20 minutes per game on a team that is this bad. He needs reps. We might as well have kept Dame. It’s like people are trying to make the playin.
     
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    Simple...Because 20 minutes a game on a competitive team is far more valuable than 35 minutes on a trash team. You play on a trash team, with nobody converting assists while playing a scramble-style offense does nothing for his growth. Winning has value. Winning players have value.

    "A team that is this bad" has shown that they can compete with anyone and improve every game.

    Winning mindset is critical for a young players, and you're starting to see it. Camara on a team getting blown out every game does not become who he appears to be becoming. Sharpe not being forced to earn his reps does not become great.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    This isn’t a competitive team.
     
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