<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ May 6 2006, 11:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrianUrlacher54 @ May 6 2006, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Young should play. Orton did, and look what he did.</div>Didnt throw a pass over 15 yards all season? </div>I think Orton has one hell of an arm, actually. He can bomb that shit.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JHair @ May 7 2006, 08:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ May 6 2006, 11:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrianUrlacher54 @ May 6 2006, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Young should play. Orton did, and look what he did.</div>Didnt throw a pass over 15 yards all season? </div>I think Orton has one hell of an arm, actually. He can bomb that shit.</div>Yeah, it's just that the Bears are too conservative on offense, even since Shoop left
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SpEnCerGfX @ May 7 2006, 04:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 6 2006, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SpEnCerGfX @ May 6 2006, 05:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm a huge Vince Young fan, and while it would be great to see him start, he would definently be bad. He needs some work on his motion as we all know, but with coaches like Norm Chow and Jeff Fisher, he should progress nicely and become [hopefully] at the worst a Michael Vick type player.Although, Vince Young has some experience in starting very quickly. After all, he started as a freshman at Texas, something most players never get to do.</div>I would love to see him try and be a Vick type player... because he'll be killed.Just because he's a black "running" QB, doesn't mean he's like Vick.</div>That's not what I ment. What I was trying to say was that he could be a playmaking rusher, which he is, but not be a great passer and get stats like 18 touchdowns, but also have 14 or 15 interceptions. So what I meant was that he had the same sort of stats as Vick. In no way is he close to the same player though.</div>Vick = 4.2 speedYoung = 4.4 speed.And yes, there is a large difference. Young's speed is comparable to McNabb's, Culpepper's, Boller's, etc. None of them could ever be running QB's in the NFL like Vick is. They would be killed if they were the run first type of player, as will Young if he tries.
Jeff Fisher and the Titans FO has said that he will probably not play significant time this year, but the thought of playing him is tempting. While we would probably have a better chance at winning more w/Young starting than Volek, it is better in the long run for him to sit a year and be a regular starter next year at the earliest. I think best-case scenario for VY's long-term success is to sit this year, maybe get some mop-up duties a game or two. Start getting worked into the starting lineup some in 2007, be full-time starter in 2008.
[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='46144' date='May 7 2006, 09:35 AM'][quote name='SpEnCerGfX' post='46087' date='May 7 2006, 04:30 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='46059' date='May 6 2006, 08:49 PM'][quote name='SpEnCerGfX' post='45988' date='May 6 2006, 05:21 PM']I'm a huge Vince Young fan, and while it would be great to see him start, he would definently be bad. He needs some work on his motion as we all know, but with coaches like Norm Chow and Jeff Fisher, he should progress nicely and become [hopefully] at the worst a Michael Vick type player.Although, Vince Young has some experience in starting very quickly. After all, he started as a freshman at Texas, something most players never get to do.[/quote]I would love to see him try and be a Vick type player... because he'll be killed.Just because he's a black "running" QB, doesn't mean he's like Vick.[/quote]That's not what I ment. What I was trying to say was that he could be a playmaking rusher, which he is, but not be a great passer and get stats like 18 touchdowns, but also have 14 or 15 interceptions. So what I meant was that he had the same sort of stats as Vick. In no way is he close to the same player though.[/quote]Vick = 4.2 speedYoung = 4.4 speed.And yes, there is a large difference. Young's speed is comparable to McNabb's, Culpepper's, Boller's, etc. None of them could ever be running QB's in the NFL like Vick is. They would be killed if they were the run first type of player, as will Young if he tries.[/quote]Did you even read what I said? I was talking about his stats, not playing style . His playing style would be a better comparison to McNabb as you said, because he doesn't have blazing speed, but he can make plays with his legs if he has to.
[quote name='SpEnCerGfX' post='46199' date='May 7 2006, 12:32 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='46144' date='May 7 2006, 09:35 AM'][quote name='SpEnCerGfX' post='46087' date='May 7 2006, 04:30 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='46059' date='May 6 2006, 08:49 PM'][quote name='SpEnCerGfX' post='45988' date='May 6 2006, 05:21 PM']I'm a huge Vince Young fan, and while it would be great to see him start, he would definently be bad. He needs some work on his motion as we all know, but with coaches like Norm Chow and Jeff Fisher, he should progress nicely and become [hopefully] at the worst a Michael Vick type player.Although, Vince Young has some experience in starting very quickly. After all, he started as a freshman at Texas, something most players never get to do.[/quote]I would love to see him try and be a Vick type player... because he'll be killed.Just because he's a black "running" QB, doesn't mean he's like Vick.[/quote]That's not what I ment. What I was trying to say was that he could be a playmaking rusher, which he is, but not be a great passer and get stats like 18 touchdowns, but also have 14 or 15 interceptions. So what I meant was that he had the same sort of stats as Vick. In no way is he close to the same player though.[/quote]Vick = 4.2 speedYoung = 4.4 speed.And yes, there is a large difference. Young's speed is comparable to McNabb's, Culpepper's, Boller's, etc. None of them could ever be running QB's in the NFL like Vick is. They would be killed if they were the run first type of player, as will Young if he tries.[/quote]Did you even read what I said? I was talking about his stats, not playing style . His playing style would be a better comparison to McNabb as you said, because he doesn't have blazing speed, but he can make plays with his legs if he has to.[/quote]
[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='46205' date='May 7 2006, 11:46 AM'][quote name='SpEnCerGfX' post='46199' date='May 7 2006, 12:32 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='46144' date='May 7 2006, 09:35 AM'][quote name='SpEnCerGfX' post='46087' date='May 7 2006, 04:30 AM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='46059' date='May 6 2006, 08:49 PM'][quote name='SpEnCerGfX' post='45988' date='May 6 2006, 05:21 PM']I'm a huge Vince Young fan, and while it would be great to see him start, he would definently be bad. He needs some work on his motion as we all know, but with coaches like Norm Chow and Jeff Fisher, he should progress nicely and become [hopefully] at the worst a Michael Vick type player.Although, Vince Young has some experience in starting very quickly. After all, he started as a freshman at Texas, something most players never get to do.[/quote]I would love to see him try and be a Vick type player... because he'll be killed.Just because he's a black "running" QB, doesn't mean he's like Vick.[/quote]That's not what I meant. What I was trying to say was that he could be a playmaking rusher, which he is, but not be a great passer and get stats like 18 touchdowns, but also have 14 or 15 interceptions. So what I meant was that he had the same sort of stats as Vick. In no way is he close to the same player though.[/quote]Vick = 4.2 speedYoung = 4.4 speed.And yes, there is a large difference. Young's speed is comparable to McNabb's, Culpepper's, Boller's, etc. None of them could ever be running QB's in the NFL like Vick is. They would be killed if they were the run first type of player, as will Young if he tries.[/quote]Did you even read what I said? I was talking about his stats, not playing style . His playing style would be a better comparison to McNabb as you said, because he doesn't have blazing speed, but he can make plays with his legs if he has to.[/quote][/quote]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 7 2006, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>way to back off your racist comment</div>Racist comment? Whatever man, I'll give up. Just please, don't assume I'm rascist because you misinterpreted my comparison.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SpEnCerGfX @ May 7 2006, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 7 2006, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>way to back off your racist comment</div>Racist comment? Whatever man, I'll give up. Just please, don't assume I'm rascist because you misinterpreted my comparison.</div>You assuming a man with a black face and some decent legs is like Vick is racist.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 7 2006, 02:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SpEnCerGfX @ May 7 2006, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ May 7 2006, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>way to back off your racist comment</div>Racist comment? Whatever man, I'll give up. Just please, don't assume I'm rascist because you misinterpreted my comparison.</div>You assuming a man with a black face and some decent legs is like Vick is racist.</div>I assumed nothing, I HOPED for something. If you would actually read the damn post, I said I meant that I HOPED he would have STATS like Vick. Not once did I say he was the same player in any damn way. Good lord.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SpEnCerGfX @ May 7 2006, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I assumed nothing, I HOPED for something. If you would actually read the damn post, I said I meant that I HOPED he would have STATS like Vick. Not once did I say he was the same player in any damn way. Good lord. </div>Cool, but Vick's stats absolutely suck for a QB.55.3 Completion %15 TD13 INT73.1 Rating2,412 YardsSorry, but Vick isn't a worthy starting QB.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Capt. Comeback @ May 7 2006, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SpEnCerGfX @ May 7 2006, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I assumed nothing, I HOPED for something. If you would actually read the damn post, I said I meant that I HOPED he would have STATS like Vick. Not once did I say he was the same player in any damn way. Good lord. </div>Cool, but Vick's stats absolutely suck for a QB.55.3 Completion %15 TD13 INT73.1 Rating2,412 YardsSorry, but Vick isn't a worthy starting QB.</div>Ok, but it's better than being a total bust like some say he will be. Plus, Vick makes the Pro Bowl all the time. I know that's mainly because of his legs, and Vince doesn't have them. At the least, I do hope he is average. At the most, I hope he's a great quarterback. You people have a problem with me liking a player?
If Boller runs a 4.4, he should be a better player. But then again, he drops the ball without getting hit.....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ May 8 2006, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If Boller runs a 4.4, he should be a better player. But then again, he drops the ball without getting hit.....</div>ARM HAND TEST 40 20 10 VJ BJ SHUTTLE CONE32 5/8 9? 27 4.61 2.69 1.6 35? 9'9" 4.02 7.2http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/boller_kyleVince YoungHeight: 6-5Weight: 22840 Speed: 4.58 E Position: QuarterbackCollege: TexasFinal Grade: M 5.9http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/young_vince
