Oregon Ducks 2023!

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  1. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    We're gonna find out most likely.
     
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  2. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    That right there is the best argument for the 12-team playoff.
     
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    I don't think an 11 seed is going to upset a 2 seed after late November (barring injuries/personnel changes). And if that happens the 2 seed didn't deserve it and would have likely lost the next round anyway.

    You'll have well tested, great teams playing each other in national championship games. And even the 2nd round the vast majority of seasons.

    The point I'm making is the 4 team playoff never should have been a thing. We've all been missing out, and now with the loss of the PAC it might never be as good as it could have been.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    But our team took such a big hit because we lost. We will never recover. Ever.

    Yes, people believe that. Lol.
     
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    Of the established ways to determine a national championship, here is how I rank them from best to worst:
    1. 12 team playoff determined by committee
    2. 4 team playoff determinted by committee
    3. 2 team BCS determined by compueters
    4. No head to head of the best team(s) and a vote by the coaches/media
     
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    I would agree, except that for me "12 Team playoff with PAC" is so far above any that the next two are basically the same to me.

    The "No Head to Head" was just idiotic.
     
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    Figured here was as good as place as any, how is Marvin Harrison Jr. a heisman finalist, when statistically(STATISTICALLY), theres 3 other WRs better than his season? Seems kind of lame, all off of reputation. Nabers had a better season. Franklin had a better season, and Odunze had a better season. I don't get it. I mean, I do, but I don't.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Do we really want a guy who only has one year? I liked that Bo had two years left and Penix gave Washington two years. Seems sketchy to only have one year.
     
  10. Tince

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    Best case scenario, you'd land a heisman guy with 4 years of eligibility, but I'm not sure who that is.

    I think the question is, do the Ducks want to take a swing on a guy like Moore, who could hit for 2 years or totally miss, and go 8-4 next year, then hit the portal again next year. Or, do they feel they have a roster that can compete for a top 12 spot next year.

    If the 4 year Heisman guy isn't an option, I think I'd pick the really good QB with one year over the risk. Of course, some of this comes down to how much money each of them would demand and how that would impact the roster building elsewhere.
     
  11. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Could they get Moore AND Gabriel? Start Gabriel and have Donta redshirt next year? (Can they redshirt even though they played their true freshman year?)
     
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    reportedly, that's what the Ducks are working on; getting both. Will be a really tough needle to thread though
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I gotta think that Ty is gone then.
     
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    yeah, I think so

    it's too bad because he seems like a really quality young man and he really likes it at Oregon. But I just don't see starting material there
     
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    Autzen Audibles guys were saying you get the QB first and then you go after a top tier WR who wants to play with that QB. So if we got Gabriel that could be a huge asset for recruiting the portal.
     
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    I've seen the idea thrown around, but given that they do have a fixed budget for NIL (more or less), I'm not sure dropping 33-50% of the budget on the QB position would be wise. It's hard to know exactly what these guys are going to get, but I'd assume Gabriel is in the $1.0-1.5m range and more is in the $750-1.0m range. They're going to want to attack the DL, secondary, and receiver room as well. Not to mention, take a swing for an elite LB, TE, or kicker shows interest. And they've got to pay for the 2024 class while giving bumps to current players who are getting calls from other teams.

    From what I've been told, it's a far more complicated juggling act than some might assume.
     
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    That makes sense. WRs are going to want to know where they can get paid the most and if they'll have QBs that can make them look good. Looks like Washington is going to get a nice fit in Rogers and WRs are going to be real tempted to play in that system.
     
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    To answer your question about redshirting:

    Yes, a player can redshirt one time at any point in their career. In your scenario, Moore could play in 4 regular season games and the post-season while maintaining his reshirt in 2024. At that point he would technically have 3 years of eligibility, though if he had a great 2025 season, he could declare for the draft as a redshirt soph.
     
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    Is Gabriel the best QB in the Portal?
     
  20. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Depends on who you ask. Some people I listen to think Cam Ward is a better QB.
     
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