Religion Mid East Religious War

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  1. oldfisherman

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    I responded to your lie that the evidence was lacking that Hamas used human shields. Everything you responded with other than you "do not care" was misdirection, and not connected to what I said.

    And I stand behind my words.
    Hamas are cowards and rapists.
     
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    Then go fuck yourself.
     
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    What Hamas is SUPPOSEDLY doing???? What the actual fuck?
     
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    Hamas isn't good guys so there's no reason to contrive narratives about them. There wasn't mass rape. There wasn't mass beheading babies. And they didn't have a "command center" under Al-Shifa hospital. This is why Israel has lost such credibility around the world. They have been completely sloppy making things up like pointing to a calendar and calling it a terrorist sign up sheet.

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    The attack on October 6 was such a shock to the system it's not surprising the US response would be stand with their ally Israel. But Israel seems to have no real strategy for defeating Hamas other than kill everyone in Gaza and reduce it to rubble. Trump desperately wants to return to office to stay out of jail. Netanyahu is in same position except he is currently in power. It's in his interest to keep the war going. Cost be damned.

    Obviously this puts US in difficult position. Continue to stand with ally and be complicit in genocide or cut off aid to ally in the midst of war. Biden seems trying for a middle course of backing Israel while backing off from slaughter in Gaza. He was instrumental in negotiating the brief truce.

    But with neither side wanting to continue not sure what, aside from cut of aid or out strict contingencies on aid, including threat to suspend aid.

    You can pretty much kiss remaining hostages goodbye.
     
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    There is so much misinformation and propaganda in your post, I won't take the time to respond to each lie. Instead, let's look at what is being reported in a neutral country, India.



    Not only are the Palestinians a carrier of the Hamas terrorists desease, and supporters of the Hamas terrorists. As reported in the video, they actively incourage their criminal behavior of rape and torture.

    So tell me, where does Hamas end, and the Palestinian people begin?

    There is a reason the Palestinian people have been thrown out of several Arab countries. And none of their Arab brothers will take the refuges into their homes. The Palestinian people have been troublemakers. Yet Israel has been trying to live peacefully next to these troublemakers.
     
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    Your post is completely racist and makes generalizations about entire populations. You're no better than the people hating Jews for what the Israeli government does.

    The reason why Arab populations won't take Palestinians into their country is because Palestinians can't go back and reclaim their homes, which is exactly what Israel wants. Not to mention their stringent immigration policies. Israel is killing women and children at a faster pace than even Hitler did by some estimates.

    Your "neutral" source linked to a Youtube is laughable. I literally posted what the IDF said and you post something from India? A country that has basically waged war on Muslims?

    Do us all a favor and keep your racism to yourself and off the board. Appreciated.
     
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    Credible war correspondents and medical professionals in Israel doing autopsies have proof that women and children were raped and shot in the back of the head with semen found on their bodies ..they are now trying to match the semen with the rapists idenitities. Don't bullshit yourself over religious propoganda that atrocities have not occcured by Hamas because they have..Israels response was and is wrong targeting civilians with bombing raids. This is not a war between armies, it's a terrorist attack with hostages, beheadings, rapes and genocide. There's no right side when it comes to killing, raping and torturing people I don't care where you fucking pray. Take the war to the fucking desert and leave people alone in their homes and work places for fucks sake....all they are doing is ingraining more hatred for future generations to fight over.
     
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    I don't think any "people" can be blamed for being run out of a country. That's almost always the fault of the country.

    I'm not sure anybody needs to be painted with such a large brush...

    The majority of Palestinians polled have not supported Hamas until the last couple months. It appears support for Hamas is growing the more Israel bombs Gaza and creates more people who hate Israel.

    Shocking.
     
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    Palestinians by definition are the kind of people not welcome in other countries? How is that not racist?
    As to other countries not welcoming Palestinians, how eager is the US to admit impoverished refugees from Latin America? Not because they are rapists and drug dealers. But for various political and economic reasons. And in some cases due to racism.
    Palestinians have also been used as political pawn by a lot of groups.

    Last election in Gaza was 2006. Hamas has been losing support due to not doing shit for residents. Israel has not only lost world's sympathy by their assault on civilians, Hamas has gained popularity and influence.

    Which is terrible for Israel and the Palestinians.
     
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    Since when have religious wars cared about civilian loss of life of any magnitude.
     
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    Excellent post. Well said.
     
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    A case can be made, that a civil war is going on within the Muslim religion. The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful nice people. About 15 to 25% are not peaceful, and are using extreme violence to force their beliefs on others, even other Muslims.

    The Palestinians have proven many times over they are on the side of violence. Therefore, the Palestinians are no longer welcome in other Muslim countries.

    This video is an interesting discussion on the divided Muslim topic.

     
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    All Palestinians on the side of violence?
    Please vote your proof and I do not mean cherry picking from web sites.

    As to using violence to force one's views on others, shall we discuss the history of Christianity? And not just the past.
     
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    Newsflash. Nations use religion and remix it to their advantage. Judaism is misrepresented by Israel. Christianity is misrepresented by America. Islam is misrepresented by Iran.

    It's not terribly unique. Nobody has killed and terrorized more than the United States government.
     
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    His lack of awareness is insane after the United States killed more than a million people in trumped up "wars" in Iraq/Afghanistan. Some would say that's terrorism.
     
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    A video on a fringe conspiracy web site in which a woman with no expertise on Middle East "smacks down" a Muslim is presented as proof of something?

    It is insane we are having this discussion. The majority of Palestinians are Arabs. Ethnically identical to Saudi Arabians, Lebanese, Syrians, etc. Are they all biologically programmed to be violent, unlike, you know, nice white Anglo Saxon Christians?*

    And news flash, Benghazi is not in Palestine!

    *Genocide against indigenous people, burning heretics at the stake, the hundred years war, Nazi Holocaust, kidnapping and enslavement of tens of millions of Africans, Opium war in China....
     
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    Isn’t the losing side the terrorists and the winning side has been liberated?

    doesn’t matter the side. The winners write history….
     
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