Game Thread 2023-24 GAME #27 - BLAZERS VS WIZARDS - DECEMBER 21, 2023 - 7:00 PM PST - ROOT

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  1. blazerfan11

    blazerfan11 Well-Known Member

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    Actually, it's not true. Brogdon isn't as efficient scoring as Simons.
    But Brogdon is shooting 3-pointers significantly better than Simons.

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  2. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Here is a fun fact. Simons and Brogdon have around the same Ast% and TO%. They're both higher % than Scoot, who also has twice the turnover %.

    The thing with assists is teammates need to actually make shots.

    Simons is 14th in the league in potential assists per game, and 8th in secondary assists per game. 20th in the league in passes made.

    https://www.nba.com/stats/players/passing?dir=D&sort=POTENTIAL_AST

    Your statements aren't really backed by facts.
     
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    Radio guys said Thybulle is 1st or 2nd in the NBA in deflections and 2nd in steals. (this was before the last game) Pretty impressive. He is the best 3 and D player we've had in ages. I want this guy to be a Blazer for many years to come. I think they also mentioned we've gone from 9th to 19th in the league in defense since Ant has returned...not a good thing.
     
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    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    I kind of see it the opposite way. When you start two pgs wouldn't they then be sharing the duties when they are on the floor together? That is actually why I like the combo playing together. I can see Ant's scoring go up..... not his assists.
     
  5. OR-84

    OR-84 Rip City Baby!!! GO BLAZERS!!!

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    I have an extra ticket for the game tonight. No charge (maybe buy me a gin and tonic). 200 level….my nephew can’t make it tonight :(
     
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    uh oh... potential assists ... don't do it, it's not a real stat. Steph Curry would average 30 assists a night for his career, if the Warriors didn't mess everything up. LeBron James would average 50 points a night for his career, if he made every single "potential basket".
     
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    OR-84 Rip City Baby!!! GO BLAZERS!!!

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    Let me know if anyone wants to go. We can meet at Moda. We don’t even have to talk to each other :)
     
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    I am only referring to the previous game against Phoenix where Simons played 38 minutes and shot 9 - 23. 7 assists in 38 minutes is low in my opinion if Simons is a good point guard.

    Other players shot:
    Camara 2-4 (1-1 three-pointers)
    Grant 8-15 (3-4)
    Ayton 6-18 (0-0)
    Walker 3-3 (1-1)
    Reath 1-1 (1-1)
    Brogdon 5-10 (4-9)
    Thybulle 2-3 (2-3)
    Henderson 2-9 (0-2)
     
  9. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    If I weren't just getting over COVID and taking care of my now-secondarily-infected wife, I'd take you up on that. Of course, I think I might have gotten it from the last game I attended, so maybe not.
     
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    OR-84 Rip City Baby!!! GO BLAZERS!!!

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    It’s all good! :)
     
  11. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    If I was still in Portland, I would definitely take you up on that. Someone get on it!
     
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    Bet accordingly!
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Comparing the three point shooting percentage of the other players to Simons is a head scratcher to me. Those other players shoot threes when they are wide open and set, and usually (especially Thybule) from the corner. Simons is always under heavy pressure, and shoots threes almost entirely from the arc. Often those players are open because Simons is on the court. Whether or not Simons gets the assist, he opens the floor and serves as a proximate cause for improving their shot making.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Go look at the stats, all the leaders in potential assists are also leaders in APG. It has its flaws, but it's a proxy for playmaking.

    And for the record:

    Potential assists per game:

    Ant: 12
    Dame: 11.5

    Actual APG:

    Ant: 5.8
    Dame: 7.0

    You don't think that if you swapped teams for Ant and Dame, and suddenly Ant is passing to Giannis, that Ant would be the one averaging 7 instead?
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Brogdon is starting
     
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    Sharpe needs rest. That young man has been playing his tail off all season.
     
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    Milwaukee is a joke, Cronin hosed those chumps. Go Blazers!
     
  18. Whyachi

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    3 straight turnovers for Blazers... ain't no thang, i think the Blazers play rope-a-dope. Portland fakes being a stinky team, then brings the pain later.
     
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  19. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Apparently, the Wizards are good.
     
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  20. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    This wasn't the start the team needed. Laughable that they're down by 10 to a team that is 4-22.

    Yeah, Portland only has 2 more wins, but jesus christ on a cracker, the Wizards shouldn't be up by 10.

    Detroit has to be pissed they don't play Portland for a while.
     
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