Politics Colorado Supreme Court Rules Trump is Ineligible to Appear on Ballot Due to 14th Amendment

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  1. tlongII

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    It doesn't change any facts, but it certainly makes Colorado's decision to exclude him from the election questionable.
     
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    Until you consider the facts...
     
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    actually the Colorado Supreme court has ruled on his insurrection and stated clearly why he's booted according to the 14th amendment. It's in writing and this is not the Jack Smith case at all. I understand 16 states are looking into removing him from their ballots for the 14th amendment which means they find him guilty of conspiracy to overthrow an election on the state level...the federal charges have not been resolved but these are State courts.
     
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    The next step will probably be come dem convention to nominate someone other than Joe.
     
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    That way we get rid of two old duffers that shouldn't be running anyway..To fucking old!
     
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    I think it will get overturned by the Supreme Court unless he's federally charged with insurrection. We'll see.
     
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    The Supreme Court is gonna take a dump on trump.

    the establishment has moved on and want Haley
     
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    I think you see why this is a bad idea then. If the judicial system gets to kick off politicians it doesn't like by just saying, "They engaged insurrection".

    It's clear that we've crossed some kind of Rubicon in our country, in that the department of justice is now active politically. And it's been brought to us by the Democreeps. The same party that keeps lamenting about how things are "threats to our democracy" turn around and do stuff like this.
     
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    The establishment was never on Trump’s side, they’ve been trying to kneecap him since before he was even elected. And yes, Nikki Haley is an establishment hack. She’s Hillary Clinton.
     
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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    You really missed the Trump/Bill Barr connection during the last administration?? Or is it just the Republican art of willful ignorance? Either way it's pathetic. You need to broaden your informational horizons........
     
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    It’s the whole game. They are blatantly guilty of everything they accuse Trump of in a manner that is so egregious it flies in the face of reality. Nearly every leftist politician and media outlet is guilty of trying to unseat a US president using false stories and outright lies. They did it for 4 years straight and are now hoping nobody noticed. All their scandals turned up nothing. I’m actually surprised they DIDN'T find any actual dirt on Trump as hard as they scrutinized. Now we’ve watched the whole thing devolve into cherry picking bank loans to try and interfere in an election and take away people’s choice to vote for the most popular candidate. This isn’t democracy, and Democrats love it.
     
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    They aren't just saying he participated in an attempted insurrection though. Trump actually did participate in an attempted insurrection, and he let it continue without speaking out against it, even though his staff was pleading with him to do so.

    Even if all he did was refuse to stop it, that's still treasonous behavior that should disqualify him as a potential candidate.
     
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    They quite literally are. He hasn’t even been charged for that specific crime. Why?
    This is just false. You are literally just making false statements.

    It’s amazing how many ridiculous leaps and bounds you have to take to arrive at this:
    You seem to be the one actively supporting suppression of democracy, not the orange man. You want to take half the country’s vote away based on extremely dubious claims.
     
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    Trump literally lied to a huge group of followers about election tampering to get them into a frenzy, told them to go to the capital building and to fight like hell to stop the vote.

    He did this publicly. There is no disputing that.

    Then when they literally stormed the capitol building and began hunting for members of congress with zip ties he didn't say anything to stop them, even though he had hours and ample opportunity to do so.

    Again, this is public knowledge that can't be faked.

    That's inciting and leading an attempted insurrection.

    Trump should be in jail for the rest of his life.

    I don't think people who have done these things should be allowed to participate in a democratic election. And certainly not be eligible to be on a democratic ballot.

    Half (both halves) of the country is more than welcome to vote. But Trump clearly committed about the worst offense possible as an American, and he should receive the harshest punishment possible.

    I hate the death penalty, but this is about as close as I'll get to supporting it.
     
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    This isn’t what happened. He told them to go peacefully.
    once again, you had to stretch the truth to get to this conclusion.
    you are officially insane. Congratulations.
     
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    There are about 2 "leftist politicians in the Democratic Party...Bernie Sanders and AOC...the rest are firmly in the middle other than the parties tendencies to support civil rights legislation over the opposition. The political landscape today is not balanced as you allude to but is tilted to the crazy right from Trump's camp and in the case of the GOP refusing to follow the rule of law and peaceful transition of power...one and only one party is guilty and not the entire party...a dozen Republicans had the balls to tell the truth. You need to exercise perspective when it comes to the insurrection of Jan 6th and the crooks that spurred it on. The truth is the truth and all the "whataboutism" doesn't apply to Trump...he's indicted on 91 counts...that doesn't get swept under the rug for conservative talking points.
     
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    The only person taking leaps and bounds and being dishonest is yourself @jonnyboy. Well, you and @beast crnjo. You’re both being intellectually dishonest if you don’t think Trump was guilty of leading an insurrection against the United States.

    Take a step back, watch the videos again, and answer the question honestly.
     
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    You are just saying that. People who don't have Trump Derangement Syndrome do not agree. He has not even been charged with insurrection, even though there are plenty of people who would love to see him go down for that. If they could make a case for that they would. So what does that tell you?

    It's not enough to simply call something an "insurrection". Did Al Gore conduct an "insurrection" when challenged the Florida results in 2000? Did Hillary when she kept saying Trump was an illegit president etc, or that he stole the election.

    Think beyond your hatred of Trump at what kind of precedent this sets.
     
  20. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    You are capable of making a decent argument without resorting to false equivalencies. Neither of those two examples were accompanied by large groups of people encroaching uninvited to government buildings to impede political process, so they are clearly not valid comparisons.
     
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