Religion Mid East Religious War, Now with added USA Involvement!

Can you verify? Because exactly same charge made against Iraq. Against Mexico. Among others. And never actual evidence.

You can't just chop out organs. They need transplant team, special handling to stay alive, tissue typing. And no one has woken in ice bath in hotel with missing kidney.

 

This has been going on for far longer than when this genocide started. Feel free to look up "skin bank in Israel" as well. But here you go - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/21/israeli-pathologists-harvested-organs

 

Thanks. Article basically said they were harvesting without consent. Not a battlefield issue. And they aren't the only ones. It's been done here as well.
It's wrong to take organs and tissues without consent.
More people should be donors.
Unfortunately observant Jews don't donate. I am secular, I left instructions to take anything usable.

 

Killing people and then taking their organs is normal? That's what the first article provided said but for some reason that one wasn't good enough for you so I provided more evidence that this is nothing new. They're just committing a genocide and stealing the organs from bodies after now which is definitely unique and against international law.

 

Where did I say it was normal?

 

It sounded like you were normalizing it.

 

No. I am not normalizing. But the Guardian article was pretty strong that no one was being killed for organs; they were harvested from people already dead. And not just Palestinians although possibly some racist doctor was more likely to violate a Palestinian. So unethical but doesn't rise to level of genocide.

 

Every scholar who has studied this that I’ve seen has said this is absolutely a genocide that’s going on. Jewish scholars to Christian ones. It definitely meets the definition by every standard.

 

I was basing my statement on the Guardian article you linked.

Are you talking about the war in Gaza being genocide? Or are you talking about taking organs from dead bodies without consent? The former could reasonably be called genocide. The latter could not. It isn't genocide if no one is being killed.

If you claim most scholars do consider harvesting organs without consent genocide please cite specific articles they wrote. I would like to see the argument.

 

I listened to the entire video. The professor did not say one word about organ harvesting. He argued the current war in Gaza meets definition of genocide. As I said, a reasonable position. But nothing meets your claim that organ harvesting is genocide. Nor any evidence people are killed for their organs.

 

I never stated that organ harvesting is genocide. What are you talking about? I'm not going to do your work for you anymore. You clearly have access to the same tools I do. I provided multiple articles/videos. If you don't get it then that's a personal problem. I wish you luck on your journey.

 

When all else fails, personal insults.

 

Seriously?

he said this has been going on far longer than the genocide. He never said it was genocide.
You turned his words into that.

let’s see….

I never stated that organ harvesting is genocide.
Not a personal insult…

After being asked for links and providing them…
What are you talking about? I'm not going to do your work for you anymore. You clearly have access to the same tools I do.
Nope. No insult there….

If you don't get it then that's a personal problem.

After providing links and you still insinuating he said something he didn’t, he has given up and said if you don’t get it, that is your problem, not his.
No personal insult there.

I wish you luck on your journey.

A kind departure. No insult here.


So really, when all else fails, claim to be a victim of insults when you aren’t.

I’m sorry. But this is simply ridiculous….

 

Article posted and claim made Palestinians being killed for organs. I was unfamiliar with source. Link posted to Guardian and I thanked for source. Article said allegations organs being harvested without consent, not specifically from Palestinians and no evidence people killed for organs. I consider that unethical but not genocide. Reply said many scholars consider it genocide. It was interesting to me someone would take that position. I did specifically ask, are we talking about Israel war in Gaza which could reasonably be called genocide or organ harvesting? No answer. The video clearly was about actions in Gaza.

I can accept that we got our wires crossed somewhere along the way. It happens although I did ask for clarification what was being discussed. Instead of recognizing we had been talking at cross purposes a, yes, nasty tone about I have access to information but can't figure out ... something. Because of my personal problems which I am unaware of but strangers are?

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/28/world/middleeast/oct-7-attacks-hamas-israel-sexual-violence.html

Hard to get images out of my head.
Although possibly some here will say this is really hot.

 

My high school colors were blue and white.