Exclusive NBA Trade Deadline Thread 2024

I’m sorry, but this is a completely idiotic take. “Flamboyant fashion choices and social media presence.”

“Flamboyant fashion choices” is not a bad thing. Dennis Rodman, who’s likely from your era, was more flamboyant than any dude in the NBA right now. You sound like you’d also be against bringing SGA here, who’s probably the biggest fashion guy in the NBA right now. I swear I’ve seen Grant wear a skirt before.

How does the flamboyant clothing keep the rumor mill churning? Jones has like 7k followers on Twitter, and I can’t find an Instagram. So wtf are you criticizing him for? What social media presence are you speaking of? You might have Jones mistaken with someone else.

 

I could see something like this. The Kings have Sabonis and I think Grant would thrive on that team. Harrison Barnes is probably fits this team better at this point as well. I don't really know much about Colby Jones? Is there really a spot for him on this roster? You would have to make another move?

 

Make another move, like to free up playing time for Jones? No, he’s not good enough for us to do that.

If you feel like Barnes is a better fit than Grant, it shouldn’t matter if there’s a spot for him on the roster, right now.

Jones is cheap for four years. He’s better than Rupert right now for sure, but he wasn’t a 1st rounder for a reason. He’s a high floor player like Murray. He’s a GL player right now, and if he plays well, he’ll get called up. He’s by no means a sure thing. What we know is he has a promising stroke, despite the percentages. We also know he hustles on defense, and does a bit of everything on the floor and is a full 1/2 in taller than Shae, barefoot. In three GL games, he’s averaging 16.8/5.4/4.7/2.7/0.7 (2to) in 3 games.

 

Both seem to be "Tank" moves. The one thing I see is Barnes has been a role player on a team that has been successful. If you are looking for "Taem" players he probably could be of value. Getting Jones cheap if he works out is a great move. If he doesn't the Tank is still on anyway. You really can't miss on a player like that right now anyway.

 

Also another guy, and I’m not sure if the bloom is already off this rose for you guys, but…

Saddiq Bey

Fits into a TPE, and I would offer the ‘26 MEM 2nd, and that’s it. He would be a buy real low like Thybulle—he was had for our ‘29 unprotected 2nd. Last summer, he was traded for five 2nds, and Hawks fans do not want him back next season.

- My reasons to want him still remain: he can shoot the 3 ball, and he hustles on defense. His rebounding is also an asset on this team, 6.7rpg (2.4 orpg) at SF.

- The reasons we might be able to obtain him for just one 2nd: his 3pt% is a lot worse than his shot actually is imo (33.5% this year). Apparently, he is also one of the worst corner 3pt shooters. His defensive rating is in the bottom 15% of the league, and he is set for RFA.

- My reasons I still want him despite more bad than good: I think it’s relatively easy to pinpoint where his weaknesses are. First, I don’t think he’s going to command a huge sum of money. I honestly think he’ll be around the $10-12m/yr mark. 3 yrs/$40m might be the offer sheet he signs. I don’t think there’s any way he gets the GTJ contract without having a higher 3pt%.

I don’t think re-signing him hurts the team at all, especially at a rate close to Thybulle’s. It’s important to remember that the Hawks are putrid on defense, so his defensive rating is going to suffer. With his hustle, his defense is actually way above passable despite the lack of burst or athleticism. We’ve also continuously seen every team he’s been on allow him to expand his offensive game (3s off the dribble and such) when we’ve seen that’s not his game. Bey likely makes more money this summer if he was strictly a 3-D player.

2nd rounders are always a crapshoot. While I believe that doing your due diligence and drafting well is better than trading picks away for immediate help, I’d be lying if I said I was confident that a 2nd rounder past #41 in two years is going to be better than Saddiq even at this point in his career.

A 2nd that’s top 41 protected from Memphis (maybe even a future protected 2nd from us) is a small price to see if a 3-D player would work out for us. Worse case, he’s like Cam Reddish and leaves for nothing. Best case, we re-sign him, and maybe more than a few will warm up to him the same way you did Thybulle.

 

Maybe confusing him with Kai Jones?

 

That…makes a lot more sense lmao. Still wouldn’t make sense that my guy would not look through the post or see the video of Colby who looks nothing like Kai. But hey, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

It's basically a chatgpt troll. Don't think too hard on it.

 

Well I just looked at his previous comments, lord do I feel like an idiots LOL.

In my defense, I’ve always thought of trolling as a teenager thing. Didn’t realize someone likely between 40-60 would still feel the need to be edgy haha.

 

you must be new here. Very new. More older casual trolls here than actual teen trolls.

 

I like Jerami Grant, but I don't like how he plays sometimes. He'd be great if he'd play within an offense, but he wants to go one on one. If we're insisting on him being this no rebounding PF that plays MeJ ball, I'd rather deal him.

 

You saying this makes me think you haven’t watched the last few games. Grant is sometimes literally the only offensive option on the floor. Even in the Knicks game, where Ant was having a TERRIBLE night, just missing bunnies after having a great 1st shooting quarter, helped Grant score by drawing attention.

It’s the same feeling I get when I hear the whole “Ant is Me-J 2.0” (the most low-hanging fruit type of conjecture on this forum) narrative. I saw Scoot get two straight turnovers to start the game and really thought to myself, “this the dude people are clamoring to get rid of ‘Me-J’ over?”.

People who always have something to say about either Ant or Grant will miss them when Scoot gets a 10to game or the team consistently scores less than 100ppg for a stretch. Guaranteed.

 

Yep. Part of my fear I’m touching on in another thread.
Many people want to trade the vets for picks and have a near full roster of rookie contracts.
I don’t see it working.

 

I would like to see a roster with Kelly Olynick type players. Players that can get 10-15 ppg, rebound, defend and most importantly impart knowledge on the young players. They are true place holders until the youngsters can carry the team. But guys like this are most likely saving their pennies and doing things the right way because they are not stars. They are future coaches.

 

Olynyk seems to be getting a lot of attention from teams trying to compete, but I agree with you on bringing these types of players in.

One guy I really like is Kyle Lowry. He already has a relationship with Chauncey. If Lowry was happy with his one ring and willing to come here on a $6-10m deal, just to mentor the young guys, why tf not? We could trade him to a contender for a 2nd or whatever at the deadline if he really wanted.

Batum, same thing, I’d love him. I would especially want him of we drafted someone like Risacher or Salaun or Sarr. One or more of them with Rupert, why not bring back Batum to help them settle in the states and really be a guide for their early career.

Unless we get multiple picks back, the only reason I’d want to deal with GSW is if CP3 wants to mentor our guys for a year. You can’t deny his impact on guys like SGA and DBook. Hell, GSW looks even worse now that CP3 is injured—he was holding that bench unit down.

There are probably plenty more, but those are the top 3 off the top of my head.

 

Now this is where it gets interesting. Not that much changes. Still only have the ‘28 1st. Kuminga still a stretch to actually bring in a star, Moody might be their only interesting young guy to me (they’re not trading Podz or JacksonDavis), Wiggins contract is a negative, Klay and Dray don’t return any players of value.

 

Could be the case?
But still Colby Jones at 2 mil for 4 years at 6-6 SG could work into something?
I figure he meant what he said?

 

Here's the thing. If this team still had Dame and CJ with Sharpe, Grant, Ayton, Walker, Thybule and Simons they are absolutely making the playoffs and possibly making some noise.

 

Will be interesting to see what GSW does. CP3, Klay, Draymond, and Wiggins are all bad contracts. Moody can score that is about all I know about him. Kuminga is attractive but will he ever really reach a higher level where he is sniffing all-nba? How much better is he than a guy like Jabari? He is not a centerpiece to a deal and that 2028 pick isn't terrible all things considered.

Most likely somebody will bite and take Draymond and Klay with the hopes they can help a deep playoff run. PHI, MIA, MIL, LAL, LAC are all in win now mode fore sure. Maybe even DAL too. You can't let Embiid or Luka walk. Gotta keep Giannis happy too.