Exclusive NBA Trade Deadline Thread 2024

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  1. robson

    robson Active Member

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    Was this season supposed to be about youngs development or scoring over 100?
     
  2. Ha Seung-Boumtje-Boumjte

    Ha Seung-Boumtje-Boumjte Active Member

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    While I appreciate your acknowledgment of my entitlement to an opinion, rest assured that my perspectives are often rooted in a comprehensive network of sources, extending into NBA team locker rooms through strategic connections, including with those on the janitorial staff. This insight allows me to form informed opinions that may differ from conventional views.
     
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    Ha Seung-Boumtje-Boumjte Active Member

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    Let's address the confusion about Colby Jones' social media presence. It appears that you've not been blessed with the privilege of accessing his exclusive accounts. Trust me, they exist – it's like a secret club, and you, my friend, are unfortunately not on the guest list.

    And for the record, I never said flamboyant fashion choices were a bad thing. I'm all for it! In fact, I heard Colby Jones once wore a tutu during warm-ups just to psych out the opposing team. But hey, maybe that's just an urban legend – or is it? You see, my sources are top-notch, including the most trustworthy janitors.

    But back to you, dear critic. Your diligence in fact-checking is truly commendable, even if it's about as accurate as a blindfolded archer aiming for a bullseye. The only thing more impressive than your poor reading comprehension is your apparent ability to misinterpret my intentions. Bravo!
     
  4. Rastapopoulos

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    I feel like maybe some of the teams lusting after Siakam would settle on Jerami as a fallback. Sacramento is a key example: supposedly they were interested in him but he made it clear that he wouldn't re-sign with them and they refuse to give up the Good Murray Twin to get a rental.
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    I'm kind of intrigued by Vezenkov. I imagine the reason last year's Euroleague MVP is getting zero playing time is because he is likely the worst defender in the NBA by dint of not being an NBA-level athlete. But we're tanking! And we're shit at defense anyway! He's basically what Luka will be when he's 50, and I would see that as reason enough to tune in in another lost season.

    Barnes is OLD but I see him as pretty flippable - he's the kind of guy a contender could absolutely use. For example:
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    For both picks, as both Kings and Sixers would violate Stepien, could this be got round with pick swaps?
     

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    UKRAINEFAN Well-Known Member

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    I don't think of him as a troll, just someone offering an alternate perspective on the universe.
     
  6. SharpeScooterShooter

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    I tend to agree. And thus my creating of the thread this morning. :)
     
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    First trade, I’d need Jones back if they’re giving a 1st and not two 1sts.

    Second trade, I don’t think Philly gives up a 1st for Barnes. If Philly bites for a 1st, then I do like the second trade.
     
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    I don't know how but Joe just has to finish the blow up (trade Jerami and Malcolm) and I think Ant has nice value around the league so move his ass on as well because Ant doesn't make Shae or especially Scoot better. We need to just have a team of hustling young athletic players and the games will be more fun to watch, the blowouts will only be by 20 and we'll be on a much much better path.

    Hell if I was Joe and I could make it work I'd trade Deandre to the Knicks for Mitchell, Founier and draft considerations and I would take a conditional first off of some team for Matisse as well. Rip it down to the young studs and roll forward with youth and picks...

    The Thunder did not keep experienced players, they just went full youth rebuild. The guys whose names are bot some sort of Jalen weren't heralded before they played in the league. Also Shai didn't look much better than Shaedon in his rookie and sophomore years (check the fucking game logs).

    The future looks bright if we'll let go of the past! Go Blazers!
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Cronin sat on the Brogdon chip too long.
     
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    Wow? the last 5-6 games are pretty telling.
     
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    Bunch of people here wanted to keep him. Don’t think any of those people think this, even if they’re wrong, lol.
     
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    I think he has shown what he can accomplish in the right situation. Not sure his value would change that drastically.
     
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    Agreed, but I’m just saying.

    I wonder if any of those guys in the “we need to keep the vets because winning culture, yada yada yada” have changed their stance.
     
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    Too many fans treat trades like it's their fantasy football team, and if a guy has a bad two weeks, his value is shit all of a sudden. Every GM knows what brogdon brings and knows his injury concerns. This fluctuating value people seem to place on him, or most players really, is comical.
     
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    That wasn’t really my point. My point was fans seem to switch back and forth. When a player is good, he’s a valuable vet. When he has a bad game, he doesn’t give a fuck. We as fans all know what the situation is. Flipfloppers just irritate me, idk.
     
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    I’ve kind of been one of those guys. I like having a few good vets with great attitudes to mentor rookies and players that need guidance. I wouldn’t have a problem keeping him at all. I also understand the business well enough to know getting good value from him would be a positive as well.
     
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    Look, I agree with you. I don’t mind not scoring over 100, and it should definitely be about developing the young guys.

    But the same people who say this team needs vets to establish a winning culture are for some reason surprised that a couple vets can’t actually help young guys establish a winning culture when they don’t really even know how to play yet. Inconsistency irritates me. I’ve been ready to embrace the temporary losing for a long time, doesn’t seem like all of us are.

    So yeah, that remark was more geared towards the people who say Grant and Ant are ball stoppers, but the offense absolutely looks better with them in the lineup. Not even a debate. The occasional 10ast game from Scoot or an occasional game where we win because we moved the ball a little better than usual won’t fool me.
     
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    Lowry is just as good at being a vet as Brogdon. Those who want to keep Brogdon specifically are pointing to the fact that he can still play, which is the problem. They’re masking their desire to actually win a couple more games with their desire for ‘vet leadership’ to guide young guys.

    Guys who are 10+ years older that have a good history of being good culture guys (Jared Dudley for a long time is a great example) all work as vets. Robin Lopez even could be that kind of guy. I remember as soon as Lopez got here, he immediately referred to Meyers as ‘his guy’, really upping the confidence of a guy who generally was aloof for most of his career.
     
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    What is the difference between a flip flopper and someone who changed their mind based on more information? Come on now... Don't be so easily irritated. Not trying to bring politics into this, but did those who voted for Trump the first time but Biden the second irritate you also?

    Look. I'm not changing my mind based on good vs bad play. Its the improvements or lack of, schemes, rotations, etc. I'm not seeing progression in almost anything other than Scoots timing(slowing down a bit).

    3 years ago, I wanted Dame to retire as a Blazer and if I had my way, even today, I would still rather have that. So I don't think I'm flip flopping as much as addressing the current situation and understanding that we made mistakes in the past that are now coming back to bite us in the ass. And the key is I'm not seeing any decisions being made that are much different than the mistakes of the past. So with that said, Since we DONT seem to be changing much, I look back with 20/20 vision and wish we would have traded him 2-3 years ago, or not traded him at all.

    Yes I understand trading him now(this last summer) is supposed to speed up the rebuild process, but i'm not seeing it unless we go full on rebuild, which, so far, we have not.

    If you consider that flip flopping, then I don't know what to tell ya People change their minds based on more info all the time, both in personal and professional circumstances.
     

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