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  1. riverman

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    Thank you! I couldn't have said it better!
     
  2. KingSpeed

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    Grandpa- you want everything too soon. KG had trouble getting a shot off in his rookie year. Dirk shot 28% from 3. Giannis averaged 6 ppg. Kobe shot multiple air balls in playoffs. This is what A talents with upside look like in their rookie years. We have already seen a 22/7/11 game from Scoot and he was a nominee for western conference player of the week for chrissakes! In a few years, he’ll average those numbers. Just a few games ago, he had 17/10 with 1 turnover and 0 fouls. And then there’s Sharpe who has shown the ability to score on any defense easily while sealing a win 2FTs and a block at the buzzer. Nothing that is happening this year should be surprising or disappointing. They are inconsistent and we are losing. Look at OKC 2 seasons ago: 24-58. This shit takes time. But we’re doing it right.
     
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    You continue to bring up outliers. For every 3 hall-of-famers who got off to slow starts, there are 100 guys out of the league that got off to slow starts to their career. And just because I can point to 100 rookies who got off to slow starts and never made it to their second contract, doesn't mean that'll happen in this case either.

    I'm not giving up on Scoot/Sharpe, but there are so many obvious differences between those two and Dirk, Giannis, and KG, I'm not sure what value the comparison provides. Unless it's just blind hope.
     
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    How many games did they lose by 60? or did they loose by a combined 192 points during a 1-6 stretch. I would be willing to bet not. Losing is one thing, being embarrassed night in and night out is not what happens to most rebuilding teams.
     
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    Dude. We are playing SIX rookies. We have major injuries. We are playing the two best teams in the West back to back on the road. We got clobbered. Celtics got clobbered by Bucks last night. It happens. We are a bad team. Let me tell you about another bad team: OKC 2 years ago when they lost to the Grizzlies by 79 points!!!! No joke! This will turn around. We have two A level talents in Scoot and Sharpe with two lotto picks joining the team this summer. Probably one more year of losing, then consistency, then winning. You want 2013 Giannis to be 2019 Giannis. Be patient. Do you think KD and Westbrook came out of the gate beating everybody? Look it up. They didn’t.
     
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    42N8Bounce Red Hot And Rebuilding

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    I always enjoy your optimism, Eric.
    (You may have a future as a Season Ticket Holder rep)
     
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    There aren’t “a 100 guys out of the league” with Scoot and Shaedon’s talent. And they have both shown their HOF potential on the court. They just don’t do it every night. Plus they have each missed games with 2 different injuries. The reason I compare Scoot to Kobe, Dirk, KG is because that is the level of talent Scoot is. That is why he was the #3 pick, a #1 pick in most years.

    Kobe, Dirk, KG, Giannis aren’t outliers. There are MANY star players with slow starts. Almost all of them short of Jordan, DRob, and Alcindor, the GOAT rookies. Even LeBron struggled his rookie year and missed the playoffs his first two seasons.

    Sharpe & Scoot have also had the issue of dealing with an unclear role on the team. When Simons and Brogdon were both out, Scoot played his best basketball. We have to trade Simons and Brogdon. Start Scoot and Sharpe and tell them this is THEIR TEAM, FIGURE IT OUT. Once we do that, then we’ll see meaningful growth that fans can see. Scoot has all the skills to put up a 30-10-10 game and Sharpe does too. Give them a chance. The starters should be Scoot/Sharpe/Camara/Walker/Ayton. Period. Trade the vets for talented young backups and picks. Hire an experienced NBA coach.
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    You mean how many did their TEAM lose by 60? I’m sure their teams had awful losses. We are playing SIX rookies. We are easy to beat. OKC lost to the Grizzlies by 79 a couple seasons ago. Now they are the second best team in the West.

    We just played SIX rookies in back to back games against the best two teams in the West at the end of a long road trip. What the FUCK were you expecting?
     
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    Even the #1 team in the NBA was trailing by 40 two nights ago. And their whole team was healthy and available! We played SIX rookies.
     
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    Yes it is lol.
     
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    LeBron stuggled his rookie year? He averaged 21-6-6 and won Rookie of the Year.

    Comparing Scoot to Kobe, Dirk, and KG isn't fair to Scoot.
     
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    Getting a developmental and X's and O's coaching staff would go a LONG way toward improving the product on the floor.

    What we have now isn't close.
     
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    He became a much better player than that.
     
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    Nobody said LeBron didn't improve after his rookie year. Nobody is saying Scoot isn't likely to improve.

    That's about where the Scoot/LeBron (or Kobe, Dirk, KG, Giannis) comparisons should stop.
     
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    We had that.
     
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    I care. I understand if others feel differently.
     
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    Lmao, Billups ain’t making it worse when we’re on a long road stretch and playing the top two teams record wise in the NBA.

    some of you guys asked for a rebuild and here it is, bottom line is we aren’t good regardless if we had a hall of famer coach in Pop or Monty..oh wait those teams sucks worse than us.

    you guys are just looking for a scapegoat and it’s quite sad. everyone that asked for a rebuild, you’re getting what you asked for.
     
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    I don’t care that you don’t care.

    cry more fans that asked for a rebuild.
     
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    This is a joke right?

    man you blazer fans are cringe, cancel your season tickets then and just buy back when we are good.

    good thing about a rebuild is it shows who the real hardcore fans are.
     

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