people get irritated with me when I post some statistical 'analysis' that kind of cherry-picked snapshot is obviously designed to make Scoot look great but has no comparative context, and I think that's a little irritating so, compare the context between what Scoot did and what Curry did: Points: Curry 36...Scoot 33 FGA: Curry 22...Scoot 31 FG%: Curry .500...Scoot .355 Rebounds: Curry 10...Scoot 7 Assists: Curry 13...Scoot 9 TS%: Curry .705...Scoot .472 eFG%: Curry .659...Scoot .419 BPM: Curry +6.9...Scoot +0.8 Result: Warriors win by 30...Blazers lose by 11 those are simply not equivalent games, but you'd never know it by that cherry-picked snapshot. Curry had a triple double AND great efficiency; and his team won. Same for 19-year old Durant. Scoot shot 31 times last night in his 30th NBA game. Durant didn't have 31 FGA in a game till the 38th game of his 3rd season. Curry didn't shoot 31 times till the 80th game of his 3rd season when he scored 47. Dame didn't shoot that many times till the 80th game of his 5th season when he scored 59 don't take this as trashing Scoot because I haven't been one of those doing that. He's not a bust and he isn't going to be. That game last night showed Scoot's potential, and it also showed his major flaw.
I think the scoring, assists, and rebounds he had last night were a taste of what's to come. I think Billups is right on just green lighting him on a tank year. He has to keep shooting. There is no other way to get better. The efficiency is highly likely to improve. Has any player shot their career best in their rookie year at point guard? Turnovers are getting fewer and he is not afraid to play very very physical. He is simply built like a brick shit house and I mean that in the best sense of the term.
These kinds of things are exactly why we love what you post here. I'm actually not sure how you pull of as much work as you do in this stuff? I used to write pre-games very consistently. No where near the amount of pure data you come up with and it was extremely time consuming. Just knowing what the teams have done in the last week and what they did the last meeting or two. Who has been hot? Who is injured or coming back? It was no less than an hour or two every day. Sometimes I'd get up 2 hours before I had to in the morning before work to put it all together.
thanks! it really didn't take that much time at BBREF to dial up the box scores of the Curry and Scoot games. A little bit of time sorting thru game logs of Curry, Durant, and Dame, but the FGA are in a column so it's pretty quick
When was the first time Dame had 30 points, 7 rebounds, 9 assists, and 3 steals (or better) in a game?
When was the last time you spent that much time on BBRef to show something positive about a Blazers player, instead of it seemingly always being a way to dispute a positive?
Agreed. While I can appreciate the detail in the responses, sometimes I feel like I’m just debating with the ultimate contrarian. And as you probably know, those are the type of people you’ll never win a debate against in real life, at least in their own heads lol. I’ve had times where I’ve definitely made some good points before on a couple topics and get hit with a “GEEEEZUS”, like…
I would say there is no shortage of people wanting to put a positive spin on things until the thing that they are spinning collapses like a house of cards. It is good to know if praise is appropriate or not.
when was the last time you said something positive about me? because you sure the fuck have said plenty of negative things
I didn't say anything negative about his rebounds and assists. Those were good numbers. His 3.0 assist/turnover ratio was good too and that was better than Curry's. And, 4-9 on three's was good as well 33 points on 31 shots is not good. Scoot averaged 1.06 points/shot. The rest of the team averaged 1.47
That I'm sure is one other thing. When I was doing it there was no BBRef and way fewer sites that gave you as much info as now. I scoured Box scores sometimes in the paper and saved the Basketball Digest and Slam Mag that came out weekly. ESPN magazine was okay but it wasn't as dedicated to basketball. Things got easier after 2008 or so?
I assume you were looking for 33 or more points to match Scoot. The quick search I did showed Dame has never had that output. I'm guessing the steals is the stopper there but he has never had a game with >= 33 points, >= 9 assists, >= 7 rebounds and >= 3 steals. Gramps...
Sorry everyone. Didn't mean to derail the thread. Scoot played hard and gave great effort against the Suns. It was great to see. Hope he continues to progress. IMHO it's more than just the amount of shots to points. It's more about the types of shots he is taking that will lead to better percentages. He needs to get that left going. Right now he's working way too hard to take a shot with his right hand. It's costing him at the rim. This can and I'm sure will be worked on and he will continue to progress.
BBREF used to be better than it is, but they eliminated a couple of stat categories and put others behind a paywall they used to have a search function where you could select 2 players and see how they performed when both were on the floor together
