Wtf is wrong with Bill Walton?

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  1. kjironman1

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    Could be? I just know for fact it’s not true. I was a Server/Bartender about 30 years ago at a very nice restaurant just off Nyberg Rd and I-5. Luke used to come in weekly and have lunch. Have to say he was a very decent guy and a good customer. Mr Nyberg was the owner and Luke and him were pretty close. Obviously I didn’t know Maurice Lucas well but I did get a chance to talk with him a number of times about basketball. On this subject I absolutely know how Luke felt about Walton.
     
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    Sheed's a fucking idiot. Everyone who played against that blazer team said that Walton WAS that team.

    Of course you had to consider Mo as well, and everyone else was solid.

    Sheed's a jealous fool.
     
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    When Lenny Wilkins was fired as blazer coach, he said, watch Walton will be healthy next year and they win the championship.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Sheed always had range.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I now know he never saw a second of video from that 76-77 season.
     
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    Kano John Start 'em young!

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    Anybody who watched the Blazers while Walton was playing knows that he was an exceptional player. What Sheed said was just plain horseshit. For the record - I didn't like the way Walton handled things after his injury but no one can deny his skill set prior to that.
     
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    I love Sheed. I’m one of his biggest fans. But fuck, dawg, Sheed so high in that. As he was when he’d come to Wilsonville Burger King. I saw him often. As good as he was, and he’s a HOFer to me, he should have been the best player in the league during his era. Had that much talent. And he’d destroy today’s league.
     
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    Agree with this. I see people say he was the best player on those Pistons championship teams, but, truly, I thought he was their fifth guy. I'm dumbfounded when I read people write he was their best player or the star of the Blazers.

    He was always a threat that the other team had to respect, because his overall athletic ability and skills were in the top percentile and he could do things few other players could do. For one play, he was a guy that was beneficial to have. But I didn't think he played hard or got anywhere close to the full extent out of his talent, and I think his sourness and immaturity was a detriment to several teams on which he played. That Pistons team had so many leader-type personalities that he couldn't take them down.
     
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    He had more talent and ability than Garnett. He's just weak between the ears.
     
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    Loved what Sheed was capable of and he was the best player on our team that most recently had the best chance at winning it all but yeah this take on Walton is garbage. I think regardless of if he's conscious of it or not Sheed knows that he was one of the most talented players in the history of the game and didn't come close to living up to his potential and that probably has him pretty bitter.
     
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    Never heard anyone who played with Sheed say anything short of him being a great teammate and having a very high basketball IQ. Biggest knock I've heard from his teammates/coaches was that he didn't want to take big shots late in the game.

    This appears to be something personal. I'm guessing Walton said something about Sheed hurting his team getting techs when he was working for NBC and Sheed took offense to it.
     
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    Yep. If Pip and Smith would have been here before Sheed it might have been different.

    He wasn't ever going to respect Sabonis.
     
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    Most talented guy in the league wants to fade in big moments and sabotage the team with refs.

    Sheed was a little boy. He's not dumb. He's just immature and weak minded.
     
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    So Rasheed goes and says publicly that Walton wasn't the man at UCLA?

    I mean, that's a really, really weird way to shoot on someone with whom you have beef? He's making himself look like he has no concept of good basketball in response to feeling slighted by something one of the best basketball players of all-time said about him.

    That's the definition of lacking composure. Which, if you ever watched Rasheed play, kind of fits.
     
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    "Hey, he said something and I feel disrespected, so I'm going to rip my own face off to prove him wrong."
     
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    Lack of self-control.

    I coached a kid who didn't get it like this. Kid scored almost 2,000 points in high school. Like Sheed, just was a phenom. Long. Strong. Great natural touch.

    We played an awful team once that had no one to match up with him, so in the 2Q they put in a football player who was 6 inches shorter just to try to muscle him around and make him uncomfortable. Kid might have averaged 2 ppg. Our kid averaged 20.

    Within minutes of the football player coming in, they throw punches and both get tossed. We lose a game to a team we normally beat by 30 or more.

    I said something to our guy after the game. He says he's not ever going to let someone get the better of him like that, that he's a man and has pride and he's not going to get pushed around. Took a minute until he started to put things together when I explained to him the stiff wasn't trying to beat him physically, he was trying to beat him mentally, and you lost because you didn't recognize it, didn't keep your cool and got tossed when you could have scored 30 and looked at him and pointed to the scoreboard at the end. "You didn't understand the game he was playing. He got you playing his game. You got tossed. He won."

    That's Rasheed in a nutshell. All ego. No emotional balance or understanding of mental toughness. Just react, react, react. Never think.
     
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    When people get their feelings hurt, they often try to say things to hurt that person back. I think what Sheed said about Walton was factually incorrect and immature.

    I don't think it makes him "weak between the ears" though. Insecure maybe?
     
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    Canzano was the only so-called witness to the Boom Boom story. So we took it with a grain of salt. Sheed knew that Canzano was pretending to be friendly, chasing Sheed around the gym to write an overstatement gotcha. A week after the article sold papers, Canzano wrote his new idea, that the basketball had hit Boom Boom in the groin. That sold more papers. Long before, the Oregonian had cemented its reputation as the town opponent of everything Blazers.
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    When Walton wrote regular articles as a journalist (ESPN or NBA.com, I forgot), he wrote a piece critical of Rasheed's behavior. Apparently, Sheed had been rude to him. This was when every local reporter hated Wallace. When Walton approached, Sheed probably saw Walton as just another white devil, and was rude.

    I was surprised that Walton criticized Wallace, because the local Sheed enemies were the same conservatives who had hated Bill in the late 70s. I thought Walton might be understanding of young Wallace, but no. 20 years later, Sheed hasn't forgotten his enemies and their biting articles, and he stated his opinion of Walton. Imagine what he'd say about his much greater enemy, the Oregonian.
     
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    That instance alone doesn't. It's just another example of it, IMO.
     
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    Got him into the playoffs and hates the Blazers now? Lol, whatever. Acquired for jack shit, Sheed was a 2 time All Star for Portland when no one else was. He was the best player on a great Blazer team that many of us enjoyed quite a bit. He did some stupid stuff in his 20s, heck I sure did too. He's still saying outrageous stuff, whatever... I get as worked up over his thoughts as I do Walton's, which is not at all

    It seems some follow sports at least in part because it gives them an acceptable forum to get their hate on. It's been 20+ years since he played here and today you're getting worked up over an immature prank of heaving a ball that hit Ruben in the boumtje-boumtjes... good grief dude

    STOMP
     
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