6'4.0” barefoot, 6'5.25” in shoes, , 209.8 lbs, 6'8.0” wingspan at the 2021 NBA Draft Combine is he better than Rupert? He sure does not have much length.
38% from 3. My fear is, defense is his calling card, he's coached by Thibs, and Thibs sounds like he doesn't like him.
I bet Thibs would like this: Obviously the ex-Raptors can't be traded, but you can replace them with JOSH HART and it works, and he probably would get diminished PT anyway if the Knicks got Brogdon and Grant, but I doubt he'd be happy to come back to an even crappier Blazers team than he left... Other downside is that we could add Robinson to our own Timelord to the collection of always-injured-centers. But the Knicks don't have a great range of tradeable contracts.
Bleacher report suggested Brogdan to the Bulls for Ball, Julian Phillps and Portland pick back. I know nothing about Phillips. Ball I think is done and I know the pick messes a lot up with not being able to trade other picks, but are the Blazers really going to be in the play offs anytime soon? I would guess there are better trades to be had.
My fear is if he is pissed about his playing time in NY he won't be too happy in Portland. I guess we could trade Thybulle (but Tisse has a trade clause) https://www.postingandtoasting.com/...nicks-actively-looking-to-move-quentin-grimes
we don’t need to give up an asset to get our pick back right now, it’s not going to convey for 2-3 years at the minimum, if ever
It's not about NEED. It's about getting the best pick back that is available. Think of it as a guaranteed pick in the 15-20 range in 2026. That sure as hell beats any non-lotto pick in 2024. Phillips has an intriguing profile.... but he really hasn't shown much thus far (in college or in the NBA). He's really not that good of a shooter.
that's both kind of true and kind of false the thing is, if the Blazers got that pick back at the deadline, then, going into the 2024 draft (and the off-season), instead of 3 future first's and two future swaps available, Portland would have 9-10 potential future first's and 2 swaps available as leverage in trade talks. Significant difference, especially considering how valuable Portland's unencumbered 1st's will be over the next 3-4 years it would also cancel the somewhat remote possibility that the Blazers could get completely shafted in the 2028 draft
But isn't the problem that, if they have that pick, it prevents us from trading any other picks (because of Stepien rules)?
Yes - the Stepien rules could be a problem. But IMO, that concern is overstated. Again - the best way to look at the pick we owe Chicago, is that it's value is a '26 pick in the 14-20 range. If we get a trade offer that nets a better return you take that.... but getting the Portland pick back represents good value.
The Stephan rule was put into place because idiot GM’s like the New Jersey one got completely fleased by Danny Ainge. It’s amazing how we can sit here on this board and evaluate trades and say that one was dumb or that one was really smart, and more times than not we’re right. I’m very happy with the return that we got for Dame, especially if we can get another pic or two for Brogdon. Disappointing Williams was hurt so quickly though. We need to get a good 2025 pic if any of our players are moved, no more 2024s
Can you imagine how cool that would be to have like the 24th pick in the first round having made it deep into the playoffs, then swap your pic for a teams top three choice and get a fabulous player. That’s going to happen and when it does those pic swaps are going to be worth a lot more than people think they are, as long as they’re unprotected. I noticed Oklahoma snuck its way into the Clippers Philly trade and acquired an unprotected Clippers pick swap offering a very limited first round choice in 2026. Oklahoma City is building something amazing.
The Knicks want to use draft picks and pick swaps plus Fournier ....I heard the Knicks locked on guy talking trades with Richman and he said they would love Brogdan and Badji but would offer Fournier and a second round pick for them. Knicks don't have enough talent to compete for Brogdan or Grant in my view....Precious can't catch a basketball according the the conversation they had. We can do better and with more teams than just one. I don't see us waiving anyone to get the Knicks bottom of the bench players. Richman said Brogdan was worth 2 first rounders. Grimes is being dangled to Atlanta for something they want apparently.
Lol, I’d just keep him around the most we get is a 2nd. I value 2nds, but most people don’t. In a case like this where NY would be blatantly disrespecting us, I’d laugh and hang up. Yeah Precious always reminded me to TRob, Chriss, those guys.
The most realistic Knicks trade proposal online I’ve seen is Brogdon for their lotto protected ‘25 1st and a future 2nd + Fournier’s salary. I could do without the 2nd, but a ‘25 1st would be very good. Get another one from a potential Grant deal, or trading out of one of our lotto picks, and we’ll have three cracks in the ‘25 draft. Ace Bailey, here we come!
